1 00:00:01,990 --> 00:00:34,950 [Music] 2 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,420 so 3 00:00:38,430 --> 00:01:03,110 [Music] 4 00:01:08,230 --> 00:01:05,350 hi everyone welcome to the of hub live 5 00:01:10,230 --> 00:01:08,240 stream um i've taken a month off and i'm 6 00:01:13,590 --> 00:01:10,240 officially back with a wonderful and 7 00:01:15,590 --> 00:01:13,600 great guest uh mark pacio and so i'm 8 00:01:17,270 --> 00:01:15,600 really considered mark one of our great 9 00:01:18,710 --> 00:01:17,280 thinkers of our time and i'm really 10 00:01:21,830 --> 00:01:18,720 happy we're able to have this 11 00:01:24,630 --> 00:01:21,840 conversation today um as always um we're 12 00:01:26,550 --> 00:01:24,640 gonna be doing some q a later on if you 13 00:01:29,910 --> 00:01:26,560 have some questions i don't want to talk 14 00:01:32,550 --> 00:01:29,920 to mark directly uh join the uh telegram 15 00:01:35,350 --> 00:01:32,560 group it's in the description below and 16 00:01:37,190 --> 00:01:35,360 um also you can uh put your questions 17 00:01:39,510 --> 00:01:37,200 down in the um 18 00:01:41,510 --> 00:01:39,520 the sky would not describe the youtube 19 00:01:43,590 --> 00:01:41,520 chat if you could please use that three 20 00:01:46,310 --> 00:01:43,600 asterisks before your question it'll pop 21 00:01:49,429 --> 00:01:46,320 out a lot easier 22 00:01:50,870 --> 00:01:49,439 to me and so then i can convey to mark 23 00:01:53,270 --> 00:01:50,880 but um 24 00:01:55,990 --> 00:01:53,280 yeah well i guess without any further 25 00:01:57,670 --> 00:01:56,000 ado let me bring in mark and then we can 26 00:02:00,230 --> 00:01:57,680 get started 27 00:02:01,910 --> 00:02:00,240 uh mark welcome thanks for being on 28 00:02:03,190 --> 00:02:01,920 anan thank you so much for inviting me 29 00:02:04,389 --> 00:02:03,200 on to the show it's a pleasure to be 30 00:02:06,950 --> 00:02:04,399 here 31 00:02:08,949 --> 00:02:06,960 well um i'm i'm really happy you know to 32 00:02:10,389 --> 00:02:08,959 talk to you because it's been 33 00:02:13,110 --> 00:02:10,399 what about 34 00:02:16,150 --> 00:02:13,120 uh seven years since i've you know seen 35 00:02:17,589 --> 00:02:16,160 you out yeah a long time right yeah 36 00:02:20,229 --> 00:02:17,599 because we were just talking about it 37 00:02:22,229 --> 00:02:20,239 before the show began um 38 00:02:25,589 --> 00:02:22,239 basically you came into to have a talk 39 00:02:29,030 --> 00:02:25,599 to streetwise spirituality and um i 40 00:02:30,949 --> 00:02:29,040 remember uh ray mommy he passed away now 41 00:02:32,309 --> 00:02:30,959 but he um you know he was just saying 42 00:02:33,830 --> 00:02:32,319 hey do you want to come and record i'm 43 00:02:35,589 --> 00:02:33,840 like record what i was like this is 44 00:02:37,589 --> 00:02:35,599 going to be this great guy talking you 45 00:02:39,670 --> 00:02:37,599 know if you can you know record it if 46 00:02:42,070 --> 00:02:39,680 you know am i for what reason for whom 47 00:02:44,229 --> 00:02:42,080 it's like oh no just record you know and 48 00:02:47,430 --> 00:02:44,239 anyway long story short it became the 49 00:02:49,430 --> 00:02:47,440 video that sp street fights spree street 50 00:02:51,509 --> 00:02:49,440 wide spirituality so 51 00:02:53,990 --> 00:02:51,519 yeah it was a great experience there in 52 00:02:56,150 --> 00:02:54,000 st louis i met a lot of good people um 53 00:02:58,710 --> 00:02:56,160 it's a shame that ray has passed uh you 54 00:03:01,830 --> 00:02:58,720 know but uh he was an awesome guy 55 00:03:03,509 --> 00:03:01,840 um very active in this community and um 56 00:03:06,630 --> 00:03:03,519 you know he invited me out there to do a 57 00:03:09,110 --> 00:03:06,640 whole a whole day seminar and i think 58 00:03:11,190 --> 00:03:09,120 streetwise spirituality uh has really 59 00:03:14,790 --> 00:03:11,200 stood the test of time and has been 60 00:03:17,509 --> 00:03:14,800 one of my uh main bodies of work uh to 61 00:03:20,710 --> 00:03:17,519 explain you know what awakening really 62 00:03:24,550 --> 00:03:20,720 is what a real spirituality is all about 63 00:03:26,869 --> 00:03:24,560 and um i really um still uh stand proud 64 00:03:29,750 --> 00:03:26,879 of that work and uh it's still uh 65 00:03:31,750 --> 00:03:29,760 reaching a lot of people so uh it was a 66 00:03:33,830 --> 00:03:31,760 time well spent to travel out to st 67 00:03:35,990 --> 00:03:33,840 louis and do that seminar and i'm 68 00:03:38,070 --> 00:03:36,000 thankful for you for recording it and 69 00:03:39,910 --> 00:03:38,080 helping me get it out there to a wide 70 00:03:42,470 --> 00:03:39,920 body of people 71 00:03:45,110 --> 00:03:42,480 oh it's a privilege i was not aware that 72 00:03:47,509 --> 00:03:45,120 your your talks are very very long but 73 00:03:48,869 --> 00:03:47,519 rightfully so because in order to fully 74 00:03:51,030 --> 00:03:48,879 you know convey the information that 75 00:03:52,630 --> 00:03:51,040 you're talking about you have to i i 76 00:03:55,429 --> 00:03:52,640 can't think of any other you know 77 00:03:57,110 --> 00:03:55,439 shorter shorter version unless you start 78 00:03:58,630 --> 00:03:57,120 you know developing uh 79 00:04:00,949 --> 00:03:58,640 you know psychic abilities and just 80 00:04:03,350 --> 00:04:00,959 convey the information in a few seconds 81 00:04:05,990 --> 00:04:03,360 right well i do have some shorter form 82 00:04:09,030 --> 00:04:06,000 uh presentations but they generally just 83 00:04:11,429 --> 00:04:09,040 touch on one or two topics uh sri wise 84 00:04:14,309 --> 00:04:11,439 spirituality obviously went into a uh 85 00:04:17,749 --> 00:04:14,319 you know a huge body of information and 86 00:04:21,110 --> 00:04:17,759 uh dealt with uh what i consider the 20 87 00:04:23,830 --> 00:04:21,120 points or factors of what real spiritual 88 00:04:25,909 --> 00:04:23,840 spiritual awakening actually entails and 89 00:04:27,350 --> 00:04:25,919 looks like in the real world 90 00:04:29,909 --> 00:04:27,360 and that 91 00:04:31,670 --> 00:04:29,919 contrasts uh quite dramatically with 92 00:04:34,390 --> 00:04:31,680 what a lot of people in the quote 93 00:04:37,110 --> 00:04:34,400 unquote spiritual community or new age 94 00:04:39,909 --> 00:04:37,120 community think awakening is uh it's a 95 00:04:41,110 --> 00:04:39,919 huge contrast there so um and it's one 96 00:04:43,510 --> 00:04:41,120 of the things that i kind of want to 97 00:04:45,590 --> 00:04:43,520 build a bridge to that community because 98 00:04:47,189 --> 00:04:45,600 you know you see in the modern world a 99 00:04:48,790 --> 00:04:47,199 lot 100 00:04:51,189 --> 00:04:48,800 excuse me 101 00:04:52,629 --> 00:04:51,199 people in the so-called freedom movement 102 00:04:55,430 --> 00:04:52,639 that are concerned with the loss of 103 00:04:57,430 --> 00:04:55,440 human freedom and uh how uh you know 104 00:05:00,230 --> 00:04:57,440 governments and politicians are 105 00:05:02,390 --> 00:05:00,240 basically walking all over human rights 106 00:05:04,629 --> 00:05:02,400 and uh you you reach out to members of 107 00:05:06,550 --> 00:05:04,639 that type of a community and they don't 108 00:05:09,350 --> 00:05:06,560 want to hear about uh spirituality and 109 00:05:12,390 --> 00:05:09,360 consciousness and then you uh might walk 110 00:05:15,029 --> 00:05:12,400 in or you know associate with members of 111 00:05:17,189 --> 00:05:15,039 the so-called spiritual community and 112 00:05:19,590 --> 00:05:17,199 you talk to them about the 113 00:05:21,510 --> 00:05:19,600 flagrant violations of rights that are 114 00:05:23,270 --> 00:05:21,520 taking place and how human freedom is 115 00:05:25,029 --> 00:05:23,280 being destroyed and they don't want to 116 00:05:26,629 --> 00:05:25,039 go there they want to say oh that's 117 00:05:29,270 --> 00:05:26,639 negative and you shouldn't talk about it 118 00:05:30,870 --> 00:05:29,280 and we want to stay toward nothing but 119 00:05:33,029 --> 00:05:30,880 positive vibes and talk about 120 00:05:35,029 --> 00:05:33,039 consciousness and it's like we have to 121 00:05:37,350 --> 00:05:35,039 bridge the gap between communities like 122 00:05:39,270 --> 00:05:37,360 that and help them to both understand 123 00:05:40,870 --> 00:05:39,280 both spirituality and freedom are 124 00:05:42,870 --> 00:05:40,880 important and in fact they are really 125 00:05:46,150 --> 00:05:42,880 one and the same 126 00:05:48,870 --> 00:05:46,160 because i think at one point uh there's 127 00:05:51,110 --> 00:05:48,880 you know spirituality meets action 128 00:05:53,189 --> 00:05:51,120 you know and that's the part that a lot 129 00:05:54,870 --> 00:05:53,199 of you know people in new age community 130 00:05:56,710 --> 00:05:54,880 i think forget about or don't 131 00:05:58,790 --> 00:05:56,720 necessarily look at but before we 132 00:06:02,070 --> 00:05:58,800 continue i just wanted to also remind 133 00:06:03,990 --> 00:06:02,080 everyone else too um as you know or 134 00:06:05,510 --> 00:06:04,000 every single guest unless the guest says 135 00:06:07,590 --> 00:06:05,520 otherwise i always have all the 136 00:06:09,749 --> 00:06:07,600 information available in the description 137 00:06:11,430 --> 00:06:09,759 uh mark has a website called what on 138 00:06:13,110 --> 00:06:11,440 earth is happening is that correct well 139 00:06:15,350 --> 00:06:13,120 what on earth that's correct okay sorry 140 00:06:17,990 --> 00:06:15,360 that's my main website is what on earth 141 00:06:19,990 --> 00:06:18,000 is happening.com okay good deal and 142 00:06:21,189 --> 00:06:20,000 other websites like facebook and 143 00:06:24,390 --> 00:06:21,199 whatever else they're all in the 144 00:06:26,550 --> 00:06:24,400 description so if you have any uh if you 145 00:06:28,629 --> 00:06:26,560 want to contact mark or check out what 146 00:06:31,350 --> 00:06:28,639 else mark has to offer please check it 147 00:06:33,189 --> 00:06:31,360 out and so i always try to 148 00:06:36,070 --> 00:06:33,199 at least obtain that from each guest so 149 00:06:37,909 --> 00:06:36,080 that a lot of you watching can pursue 150 00:06:40,150 --> 00:06:37,919 this after this interview and check out 151 00:06:41,990 --> 00:06:40,160 more information look into it but mark 152 00:06:44,390 --> 00:06:42,000 you probably get sick and tired of this 153 00:06:45,670 --> 00:06:44,400 quite often if you could please just get 154 00:06:48,550 --> 00:06:45,680 a little bit of view background 155 00:06:50,390 --> 00:06:48,560 information and how did you get started 156 00:06:52,150 --> 00:06:50,400 and then i figured then we'll start out 157 00:06:55,510 --> 00:06:52,160 with with the different questions i have 158 00:06:58,469 --> 00:06:55,520 for you to to i guess get going 159 00:07:00,629 --> 00:06:58,479 sure well in my youth uh i was brought 160 00:07:02,629 --> 00:07:00,639 up in a traditional roman catholic 161 00:07:05,909 --> 00:07:02,639 background and 162 00:07:09,189 --> 00:07:05,919 um i became quite religious 163 00:07:12,150 --> 00:07:09,199 in when i was very young and um when i 164 00:07:15,270 --> 00:07:12,160 really went uh deep into exploring you 165 00:07:17,350 --> 00:07:15,280 know some philosophy and looking at uh 166 00:07:19,510 --> 00:07:17,360 whether the religious beliefs that i was 167 00:07:20,710 --> 00:07:19,520 given as a child held up to any scrutiny 168 00:07:23,189 --> 00:07:20,720 i sort of 169 00:07:26,230 --> 00:07:23,199 saw through them and saw them as a form 170 00:07:27,909 --> 00:07:26,240 of a control system that was really 171 00:07:30,309 --> 00:07:27,919 geared to hold people back from the 172 00:07:31,189 --> 00:07:30,319 truth when i asked pertinent questions 173 00:07:33,670 --> 00:07:31,199 about 174 00:07:36,790 --> 00:07:33,680 sociological issues and issues related 175 00:07:38,790 --> 00:07:36,800 to uh what is going on in our world um 176 00:07:40,870 --> 00:07:38,800 the religious answers were all just 177 00:07:42,870 --> 00:07:40,880 faith-based and you know just have faith 178 00:07:45,589 --> 00:07:42,880 that it'll work out in the end and 179 00:07:48,309 --> 00:07:45,599 that didn't satisfy me a bit uh and you 180 00:07:49,510 --> 00:07:48,319 know i was more of a skeptically minded 181 00:07:50,869 --> 00:07:49,520 individual 182 00:07:54,070 --> 00:07:50,879 and um 183 00:07:56,390 --> 00:07:54,080 it started to really like uh foment 184 00:07:59,430 --> 00:07:56,400 hatred inside of me foe meant a lot of 185 00:08:02,230 --> 00:07:59,440 anger you know that was like i'm being 186 00:08:04,150 --> 00:08:02,240 lied to uh and and i'm being lied to for 187 00:08:06,469 --> 00:08:04,160 the purposes of keeping me back from the 188 00:08:08,710 --> 00:08:06,479 truth and controlling my consciousness 189 00:08:10,950 --> 00:08:08,720 and uh you know i didn't have a 190 00:08:13,589 --> 00:08:10,960 framework for understanding religion 191 00:08:15,990 --> 00:08:13,599 back then when i was younger what really 192 00:08:18,390 --> 00:08:16,000 uh why it's put out there to the masses 193 00:08:20,390 --> 00:08:18,400 who does that for what purpose i didn't 194 00:08:22,390 --> 00:08:20,400 understand those things because i didn't 195 00:08:24,390 --> 00:08:22,400 have the level of knowledge that i do 196 00:08:27,110 --> 00:08:24,400 now to put that in perspective 197 00:08:29,350 --> 00:08:27,120 and uh lacking that knowledge um that 198 00:08:31,909 --> 00:08:29,360 that anger and hatred toward organized 199 00:08:33,829 --> 00:08:31,919 religion uh that had i felt like it was 200 00:08:36,230 --> 00:08:33,839 a betrayal on that on behalf of my 201 00:08:38,070 --> 00:08:36,240 family members who just you know gave me 202 00:08:40,709 --> 00:08:38,080 that belief system and they went along 203 00:08:43,909 --> 00:08:40,719 to get along and my teachers and you 204 00:08:46,630 --> 00:08:43,919 know uh pastors uh you know priests etc 205 00:08:49,750 --> 00:08:46,640 that were in you know my uh childhood 206 00:08:51,670 --> 00:08:49,760 uh i just really reeled back from it and 207 00:08:54,230 --> 00:08:51,680 really wanted to seek out the exact 208 00:08:56,389 --> 00:08:54,240 opposite like i had in this my in my 209 00:08:57,990 --> 00:08:56,399 mindset well if this isn't the truth i'm 210 00:08:59,350 --> 00:08:58,000 going to go to the exact opposite to 211 00:09:02,150 --> 00:08:59,360 find the truth 212 00:09:04,070 --> 00:09:02,160 and uh that led me down a path of uh 213 00:09:05,670 --> 00:09:04,080 looking into and digging deep into the 214 00:09:08,230 --> 00:09:05,680 world of the occult 215 00:09:11,030 --> 00:09:08,240 and when i say the occult of course this 216 00:09:13,750 --> 00:09:11,040 uh simply is a word that means hidden it 217 00:09:16,630 --> 00:09:13,760 comes from the latin verb occultare 218 00:09:18,389 --> 00:09:16,640 which means to hide to conceal to keep 219 00:09:20,310 --> 00:09:18,399 secret and 220 00:09:22,389 --> 00:09:20,320 you know i wanted to delve into the 221 00:09:24,470 --> 00:09:22,399 realm of hidden information and hidden 222 00:09:26,389 --> 00:09:24,480 knowledge and find out what was being 223 00:09:27,590 --> 00:09:26,399 held back from my understanding through 224 00:09:30,470 --> 00:09:27,600 religion 225 00:09:32,949 --> 00:09:30,480 and when i went into this uh you know 226 00:09:35,750 --> 00:09:32,959 whole body of knowledge i we i wanted to 227 00:09:38,630 --> 00:09:35,760 go to the exact opposite extreme as the 228 00:09:41,350 --> 00:09:38,640 uh worldly religions uh told us that we 229 00:09:45,269 --> 00:09:41,360 should uh look and and should seek and 230 00:09:48,070 --> 00:09:45,279 so i found dark occultism and satanism 231 00:09:51,750 --> 00:09:48,080 and this is what i you know pursued at a 232 00:09:53,269 --> 00:09:51,760 very very fundamental deep level 233 00:09:55,829 --> 00:09:53,279 i wanted to 234 00:09:57,509 --> 00:09:55,839 get as deep into what i considered at 235 00:09:59,509 --> 00:09:57,519 the time to be the polar opposite of 236 00:10:02,550 --> 00:09:59,519 religion as possible so that led me into 237 00:10:04,150 --> 00:10:02,560 satanism and i went into the 238 00:10:06,389 --> 00:10:04,160 philosophical school of thought or 239 00:10:07,670 --> 00:10:06,399 ideological school of thought of levain 240 00:10:10,150 --> 00:10:07,680 satanism 241 00:10:11,269 --> 00:10:10,160 run by anton levay founder of the church 242 00:10:14,310 --> 00:10:11,279 of satan 243 00:10:16,949 --> 00:10:14,320 and i started espousing that ideology 244 00:10:19,430 --> 00:10:16,959 the satanic ideology has put forward in 245 00:10:20,230 --> 00:10:19,440 levy's book the satanic bible 246 00:10:23,350 --> 00:10:20,240 now 247 00:10:26,069 --> 00:10:23,360 uh this is a ideology of pure egotism 248 00:10:28,389 --> 00:10:26,079 and selfishness at its fundamental root 249 00:10:31,269 --> 00:10:28,399 at the the base level 250 00:10:33,670 --> 00:10:31,279 and it sees the self as the godhood it 251 00:10:36,310 --> 00:10:33,680 sees you know the the ego 252 00:10:38,630 --> 00:10:36,320 is raised to the level of godhood 253 00:10:40,710 --> 00:10:38,640 and you know it's all about what can i 254 00:10:43,110 --> 00:10:40,720 do for me and that's it you know don't 255 00:10:45,269 --> 00:10:43,120 worry about uh what's right you know 256 00:10:48,790 --> 00:10:45,279 worry about what you can get out of it 257 00:10:51,269 --> 00:10:48,800 uh and egotism is huge in our society i 258 00:10:54,310 --> 00:10:51,279 you know see now in retrospect that you 259 00:10:55,350 --> 00:10:54,320 know most people have a satanic mindset 260 00:10:56,949 --> 00:10:55,360 but i 261 00:10:59,269 --> 00:10:56,959 pursued this whole 262 00:11:01,350 --> 00:10:59,279 realm of the dark occult for many years 263 00:11:02,310 --> 00:11:01,360 in my youth and 264 00:11:24,310 --> 00:11:02,320 i 265 00:11:27,030 --> 00:11:24,320 so uh levay heard about my 266 00:11:29,190 --> 00:11:27,040 writings in some of these magazines that 267 00:11:31,350 --> 00:11:29,200 uh allowed people to publish articles 268 00:11:32,949 --> 00:11:31,360 about satanism and the whole ideology 269 00:11:35,350 --> 00:11:32,959 that it entailed 270 00:11:37,430 --> 00:11:35,360 and also i obviously wrote about it in 271 00:11:38,949 --> 00:11:37,440 the lyrics uh in my band at the time 272 00:11:41,509 --> 00:11:38,959 which was a death metal band called 273 00:11:44,069 --> 00:11:41,519 insanity uh which is actually still 274 00:11:45,750 --> 00:11:44,079 around today um but uh i was the the 275 00:11:47,590 --> 00:11:45,760 head of that band at the time the 276 00:11:49,269 --> 00:11:47,600 founder of it actually 277 00:11:51,750 --> 00:11:49,279 and i wrote the lyrics for it which 278 00:11:54,790 --> 00:11:51,760 espoused the satanic mindset 279 00:11:57,590 --> 00:11:54,800 uh levay and people who worked with the 280 00:11:59,990 --> 00:11:57,600 church of satan and wrote um in their 281 00:12:01,829 --> 00:12:00,000 publishings uh like the black flame 282 00:12:04,310 --> 00:12:01,839 which was their official publication at 283 00:12:05,190 --> 00:12:04,320 the time uh a magazine called the black 284 00:12:07,030 --> 00:12:05,200 flame 285 00:12:09,829 --> 00:12:07,040 uh they would do reviews and they would 286 00:12:13,350 --> 00:12:09,839 sometimes review things like bands their 287 00:12:15,190 --> 00:12:13,360 lyrics etc and i guess uh anton levay 288 00:12:17,910 --> 00:12:15,200 you know got wind of what i had been 289 00:12:20,870 --> 00:12:17,920 doing with publishing in different music 290 00:12:21,750 --> 00:12:20,880 fanzines and writing uh lyrics in my 291 00:12:24,870 --> 00:12:21,760 band 292 00:12:28,150 --> 00:12:24,880 and he contacted me and asked me if i 293 00:12:30,470 --> 00:12:28,160 was interested uh in heading up a grotto 294 00:12:32,790 --> 00:12:30,480 as they call it in the philadelphia area 295 00:12:35,110 --> 00:12:32,800 now i had already become a member of the 296 00:12:37,590 --> 00:12:35,120 church of satan i was a they have a very 297 00:12:39,269 --> 00:12:37,600 simple ranking system or or degree 298 00:12:41,910 --> 00:12:39,279 system if you will 299 00:12:43,350 --> 00:12:41,920 it's not like a full host of degrees as 300 00:12:44,790 --> 00:12:43,360 you might find in freemasonry it's 301 00:12:47,030 --> 00:12:44,800 actually very simple 302 00:12:49,509 --> 00:12:47,040 there is a standard member 303 00:12:50,949 --> 00:12:49,519 and there is no rank or degree conferred 304 00:12:52,629 --> 00:12:50,959 they're just considered a member of the 305 00:12:56,150 --> 00:12:52,639 organization that's what i was at the 306 00:12:58,629 --> 00:12:56,160 time when i was contacted by anton levay 307 00:13:00,870 --> 00:12:58,639 and then there is priest and that's just 308 00:13:02,710 --> 00:13:00,880 one level standard priesthood 309 00:13:04,550 --> 00:13:02,720 then above that you have what's called 310 00:13:08,069 --> 00:13:04,560 magi magus 311 00:13:10,710 --> 00:13:08,079 or magistra okay magister or magistra 312 00:13:12,310 --> 00:13:10,720 depending on the gender uh so that's a 313 00:13:14,389 --> 00:13:12,320 higher level priest you could look at 314 00:13:17,110 --> 00:13:14,399 that as the lieutenant of the 315 00:13:18,710 --> 00:13:17,120 regular ranking priests and then there 316 00:13:20,389 --> 00:13:18,720 is what's called the council of nine 317 00:13:22,870 --> 00:13:20,399 which is a council that makes decisions 318 00:13:24,550 --> 00:13:22,880 about the direction of the organization 319 00:13:26,069 --> 00:13:24,560 and then there's high priest which is 320 00:13:27,509 --> 00:13:26,079 what levay was and obviously there's 321 00:13:30,629 --> 00:13:27,519 only one of them 322 00:13:32,389 --> 00:13:30,639 so i was at the very last level below 323 00:13:34,629 --> 00:13:32,399 ranking member when i was appointed to 324 00:13:36,150 --> 00:13:34,639 priest uh anton levay 325 00:13:37,990 --> 00:13:36,160 gave me the 326 00:13:40,069 --> 00:13:38,000 position of priesthood 327 00:13:40,870 --> 00:13:40,079 back in 1997 328 00:13:48,150 --> 00:13:40,880 and 329 00:13:49,590 --> 00:13:48,160 take that personal responsibility 330 00:13:51,350 --> 00:13:49,600 because i wanted 331 00:13:53,269 --> 00:13:51,360 to just continue to 332 00:13:54,870 --> 00:13:53,279 look at satanism and treat it in my life 333 00:13:56,470 --> 00:13:54,880 as just something that's personal i 334 00:13:59,110 --> 00:13:56,480 didn't want to make it a group activity 335 00:14:01,430 --> 00:13:59,120 or i'll take the responsibility of you 336 00:14:03,910 --> 00:14:01,440 know directing a whole group of people 337 00:14:06,629 --> 00:14:03,920 so i turned down the position of grotto 338 00:14:09,269 --> 00:14:06,639 head uh you know at the time and i just 339 00:14:11,910 --> 00:14:09,279 kept you know espousing the ideology as 340 00:14:15,509 --> 00:14:11,920 a priest within the organization 341 00:14:17,990 --> 00:14:15,519 and i was invited to some other grottos 342 00:14:19,590 --> 00:14:18,000 to see how they were run and to you know 343 00:14:22,310 --> 00:14:19,600 basically bump elbows with the 344 00:14:24,470 --> 00:14:22,320 membership of other grottos in my area 345 00:14:26,949 --> 00:14:24,480 when i attended those meetings and 346 00:14:28,710 --> 00:14:26,959 rituals of other grottos that's when i 347 00:14:31,189 --> 00:14:28,720 saw that satanism was not what i thought 348 00:14:32,790 --> 00:14:31,199 that it was it was not just people 349 00:14:36,150 --> 00:14:32,800 looking for a cult knowledge on their 350 00:14:37,750 --> 00:14:36,160 own and seeking basically psychological 351 00:14:39,430 --> 00:14:37,760 information which is what the occult 352 00:14:41,910 --> 00:14:39,440 really ultimately is it's knowledge 353 00:14:43,590 --> 00:14:41,920 about uh the laws of nature and the 354 00:14:45,030 --> 00:14:43,600 human psyche and how it works and 355 00:14:46,310 --> 00:14:45,040 operates 356 00:14:48,150 --> 00:14:46,320 and i thought that it was just 357 00:14:50,470 --> 00:14:48,160 individuals doing that because they 358 00:14:52,550 --> 00:14:50,480 wanted a better position over others in 359 00:14:54,069 --> 00:14:52,560 their lives so they if they had more 360 00:14:56,710 --> 00:14:54,079 knowledge it would put them in a better 361 00:14:59,269 --> 00:14:56,720 position uh to get whatever they wanted 362 00:15:00,710 --> 00:14:59,279 out of life over other people who 363 00:15:02,629 --> 00:15:00,720 remained in ignorance and didn't have 364 00:15:04,310 --> 00:15:02,639 that level of knowledge and i thought it 365 00:15:07,110 --> 00:15:04,320 was just operating on that personal 366 00:15:09,750 --> 00:15:07,120 level that's naively what i believed at 367 00:15:12,069 --> 00:15:09,760 the time that satanism was 368 00:15:15,750 --> 00:15:12,079 when i started actually attending some 369 00:15:18,470 --> 00:15:15,760 grottos in my area they were packed with 370 00:15:21,829 --> 00:15:18,480 people from at high ranking positions of 371 00:15:25,430 --> 00:15:21,839 power from every institution 372 00:15:28,069 --> 00:15:25,440 in life that you could possibly imagine 373 00:15:29,910 --> 00:15:28,079 people from politics 374 00:15:31,189 --> 00:15:29,920 banking 375 00:15:35,590 --> 00:15:31,199 judges 376 00:15:38,470 --> 00:15:35,600 uh military people police 377 00:15:42,310 --> 00:15:38,480 t school teachers and principals people 378 00:15:45,749 --> 00:15:42,320 in in uh media people in entertainment 379 00:15:48,069 --> 00:15:45,759 people in the scientific uh field people 380 00:15:48,870 --> 00:15:48,079 in the medical field you name 381 00:15:56,949 --> 00:15:48,880 the 382 00:15:57,990 --> 00:15:56,959 highest ranking positions of worldly 383 00:16:01,189 --> 00:15:58,000 power 384 00:16:02,629 --> 00:16:01,199 showing up at satanic rituals at satanic 385 00:16:05,749 --> 00:16:02,639 grottos 386 00:16:08,110 --> 00:16:05,759 so when i saw that i was like whoa you 387 00:16:10,230 --> 00:16:08,120 know i i took a step back and 388 00:16:12,629 --> 00:16:10,240 re-evaluated this whole thing that i had 389 00:16:14,949 --> 00:16:12,639 become involved with over the years 390 00:16:17,350 --> 00:16:14,959 and i realized this isn't 391 00:16:18,870 --> 00:16:17,360 just some individuals that you know want 392 00:16:20,629 --> 00:16:18,880 to understand a little bit more about 393 00:16:22,710 --> 00:16:20,639 how the mind works or how the laws of 394 00:16:25,110 --> 00:16:22,720 nature work so they could put themselves 395 00:16:28,310 --> 00:16:25,120 in a better position in life right this 396 00:16:30,310 --> 00:16:28,320 was a whole lot of powerful people 397 00:16:32,870 --> 00:16:30,320 coming together to increase their 398 00:16:33,990 --> 00:16:32,880 worldly power and put other people under 399 00:16:36,790 --> 00:16:34,000 their thumb 400 00:16:39,430 --> 00:16:36,800 they were trying to basically increase 401 00:16:41,670 --> 00:16:39,440 their collective power at the expense of 402 00:16:44,550 --> 00:16:41,680 everybody else's freedom they wanted to 403 00:16:48,310 --> 00:16:44,560 become gods on earth essentially is what 404 00:16:51,189 --> 00:16:48,320 i ultimately understood from my actual 405 00:16:54,069 --> 00:16:51,199 in-person dealings with them they wanted 406 00:16:56,470 --> 00:16:54,079 to rule other people they wanted to 407 00:16:58,790 --> 00:16:56,480 become the kings of the world and have 408 00:17:02,150 --> 00:16:58,800 everybody else be their subjects or 409 00:17:04,390 --> 00:17:02,160 slaves and when i realized that what the 410 00:17:06,949 --> 00:17:04,400 whole ideology of satanism was and it's 411 00:17:08,949 --> 00:17:06,959 really no mistake it's it's it's really 412 00:17:12,150 --> 00:17:08,959 not very hidden 413 00:17:14,230 --> 00:17:12,160 uh or occulted they actually brag about 414 00:17:15,909 --> 00:17:14,240 it in their writings if you actually 415 00:17:18,069 --> 00:17:15,919 read some of their writings they tell 416 00:17:20,309 --> 00:17:18,079 you satanism is the ideology of the 417 00:17:22,390 --> 00:17:20,319 rulers of the world it's said in many 418 00:17:23,669 --> 00:17:22,400 many different publications and public 419 00:17:26,390 --> 00:17:23,679 writings that are just publicly 420 00:17:29,190 --> 00:17:26,400 available to download uh they'll make no 421 00:17:31,750 --> 00:17:29,200 bones about it that we are the masters 422 00:17:33,669 --> 00:17:31,760 we are the rulers of the world and we 423 00:17:35,990 --> 00:17:33,679 are going to subjugate everybody else 424 00:17:37,110 --> 00:17:36,000 under even tighter control than already 425 00:17:38,750 --> 00:17:37,120 exists 426 00:17:40,710 --> 00:17:38,760 and that's their goal that's their 427 00:17:43,830 --> 00:17:40,720 collectivized goal 428 00:17:47,029 --> 00:17:43,840 worldwide the whole worldwide network of 429 00:17:49,909 --> 00:17:47,039 what i now call the dark occult the the 430 00:17:53,669 --> 00:17:49,919 world of dark occultism again occultism 431 00:17:56,070 --> 00:17:53,679 should be understood as having a dual 432 00:17:57,830 --> 00:17:56,080 purpose or a dual nature there are two 433 00:17:58,870 --> 00:17:57,840 sides to the occult the light and the 434 00:18:01,350 --> 00:17:58,880 dark 435 00:18:03,430 --> 00:18:01,360 there is such a thing as light occultism 436 00:18:05,590 --> 00:18:03,440 there is such a thing as knowledge that 437 00:18:06,789 --> 00:18:05,600 has been hidden over the centuries and 438 00:18:08,950 --> 00:18:06,799 millennia 439 00:18:11,350 --> 00:18:08,960 because certain people feel that others 440 00:18:12,789 --> 00:18:11,360 are not ready to receive it okay and 441 00:18:15,590 --> 00:18:12,799 they hide it because they don't want it 442 00:18:17,110 --> 00:18:15,600 to fall into dark people's hands evil 443 00:18:20,150 --> 00:18:17,120 people's hands people who would use it 444 00:18:21,909 --> 00:18:20,160 for control and manipulation because yes 445 00:18:24,789 --> 00:18:21,919 can the knowledge of how the laws of 446 00:18:26,950 --> 00:18:24,799 nature work and how the human mind works 447 00:18:29,510 --> 00:18:26,960 be used for manipulatory purposes of 448 00:18:31,190 --> 00:18:29,520 course it can especially if you're 449 00:18:33,590 --> 00:18:31,200 wielding that as a weapon to people who 450 00:18:35,669 --> 00:18:33,600 don't understand it so light occultists 451 00:18:37,830 --> 00:18:35,679 have traditionally tried to keep a lot 452 00:18:39,669 --> 00:18:37,840 of the body of information of occult 453 00:18:41,990 --> 00:18:39,679 knowledge hidden from people who they 454 00:18:43,750 --> 00:18:42,000 feel their consciousness is so low that 455 00:18:46,390 --> 00:18:43,760 if they gathered this in a selfish 456 00:18:48,549 --> 00:18:46,400 capacity they would use it to control or 457 00:18:51,350 --> 00:18:48,559 manipulate others and so they use that 458 00:18:53,669 --> 00:18:51,360 as a justification for hiding it now i 459 00:18:56,070 --> 00:18:53,679 even think that that's not correct to do 460 00:18:57,750 --> 00:18:56,080 that's why i consider myself not even a 461 00:18:59,510 --> 00:18:57,760 member of any of those groups or 462 00:19:01,350 --> 00:18:59,520 organizations that call themselves light 463 00:19:04,549 --> 00:19:01,360 occultist i consider myself a d 464 00:19:06,390 --> 00:19:04,559 occultist i consider myself somebody who 465 00:19:09,190 --> 00:19:06,400 wants to unhide that information at 466 00:19:11,430 --> 00:19:09,200 whatever the cost is because people have 467 00:19:12,789 --> 00:19:11,440 to wake up they have to understand what 468 00:19:15,190 --> 00:19:12,799 this information is about it's 469 00:19:17,190 --> 00:19:15,200 ultimately about themselves 470 00:19:19,029 --> 00:19:17,200 it's ultimately about what's going on 471 00:19:21,270 --> 00:19:19,039 all around them and in the world in 472 00:19:24,390 --> 00:19:21,280 nature okay it's about what's going on 473 00:19:27,190 --> 00:19:24,400 around them geopolitically in in the the 474 00:19:29,430 --> 00:19:27,200 whole uh realm of earthly institutions 475 00:19:31,110 --> 00:19:29,440 and it's about how people in positions 476 00:19:33,750 --> 00:19:31,120 of power and all of those institutions 477 00:19:35,830 --> 00:19:33,760 are wielding the knowledge of psychology 478 00:19:37,270 --> 00:19:35,840 so you have to look at occultism in 479 00:19:38,950 --> 00:19:37,280 general as 480 00:19:42,070 --> 00:19:38,960 look at look at occultists uh 481 00:19:45,430 --> 00:19:42,080 historically as ancient psychologists 482 00:19:47,430 --> 00:19:45,440 psychologists who are basically uh have 483 00:19:50,549 --> 00:19:47,440 high level information about how the 484 00:19:52,470 --> 00:19:50,559 mind works okay and they are either 485 00:19:54,470 --> 00:19:52,480 using that to bring people up in 486 00:19:56,549 --> 00:19:54,480 consciousness and take them to a higher 487 00:19:58,310 --> 00:19:56,559 level of awareness or they're using it 488 00:20:00,070 --> 00:19:58,320 to deceive and manipulate people who 489 00:20:02,149 --> 00:20:00,080 they know know nothing about how their 490 00:20:03,590 --> 00:20:02,159 own mind works and they're trying to put 491 00:20:04,549 --> 00:20:03,600 them under their thumb and hold them 492 00:20:07,110 --> 00:20:04,559 down and 493 00:20:09,590 --> 00:20:07,120 make make them their subjects or slaves 494 00:20:11,909 --> 00:20:09,600 that's what occultism is it can be used 495 00:20:13,909 --> 00:20:11,919 in either direction it's just like any 496 00:20:16,470 --> 00:20:13,919 other tool it's just like any other body 497 00:20:18,230 --> 00:20:16,480 of knowledge okay you could use the 498 00:20:19,669 --> 00:20:18,240 knowledge of physics to build nuclear 499 00:20:22,390 --> 00:20:19,679 weapons or you could use the knowledge 500 00:20:24,870 --> 00:20:22,400 of physics to build bridges that people 501 00:20:26,470 --> 00:20:24,880 have to cross bodies of water with etc 502 00:20:28,470 --> 00:20:26,480 you know if there's there's dual 503 00:20:32,230 --> 00:20:28,480 purposes for just about any level of 504 00:20:34,390 --> 00:20:32,240 knowledge in in human uh endeavor so 505 00:20:37,430 --> 00:20:34,400 occultism is no different we have to 506 00:20:39,430 --> 00:20:37,440 decide if we're going to use that for um 507 00:20:43,029 --> 00:20:39,440 you know positive purposes or if we're 508 00:20:46,310 --> 00:20:43,039 going to uh use that uh in a capacity 509 00:20:47,510 --> 00:20:46,320 that holds people down 510 00:20:49,590 --> 00:20:47,520 well mike thank you very much for 511 00:20:50,789 --> 00:20:49,600 covering that which kind of uh already 512 00:20:52,390 --> 00:20:50,799 and 513 00:20:55,029 --> 00:20:52,400 got into the answers for my first 514 00:20:57,270 --> 00:20:55,039 question explaining what dark occultism 515 00:20:59,110 --> 00:20:57,280 is now i wanted to ask you uh 516 00:21:00,070 --> 00:20:59,120 in this i guess 517 00:21:02,870 --> 00:21:00,080 um 518 00:21:05,350 --> 00:21:02,880 cold is it basically just all about uh 519 00:21:07,669 --> 00:21:05,360 one's control over another uh being or 520 00:21:11,110 --> 00:21:07,679 does it involve like the hollywood um 521 00:21:14,870 --> 00:21:11,120 often portrays these um you know um 522 00:21:17,270 --> 00:21:14,880 out-of-body um extra-worldly entities uh 523 00:21:19,270 --> 00:21:17,280 demons and things like that um can you 524 00:21:21,110 --> 00:21:19,280 maybe speak a little bit about that and 525 00:21:23,190 --> 00:21:21,120 since this is ufo hub but not that we 526 00:21:25,430 --> 00:21:23,200 have to cover it but what is their point 527 00:21:26,630 --> 00:21:25,440 of view let's say on aliens and and how 528 00:21:30,549 --> 00:21:26,640 do they 529 00:21:33,909 --> 00:21:30,559 you know or is this just something that 530 00:21:36,789 --> 00:21:33,919 part of their their i guess agenda 531 00:21:39,669 --> 00:21:36,799 well in the level of satanism that i was 532 00:21:43,990 --> 00:21:39,679 personally involved in uh they did not 533 00:21:46,630 --> 00:21:44,000 see um satanism as interaction with uh 534 00:21:48,870 --> 00:21:46,640 demons or non-human entities uh satan 535 00:21:50,549 --> 00:21:48,880 was considered an archetype and an 536 00:21:51,430 --> 00:21:50,559 archetypal force 537 00:21:52,710 --> 00:21:51,440 so 538 00:21:55,430 --> 00:21:52,720 um 539 00:21:57,669 --> 00:21:55,440 they they saw satan as the ego uh 540 00:21:59,590 --> 00:21:57,679 personified and uh could you just hold 541 00:22:00,870 --> 00:21:59,600 on one moment there's someone at my door 542 00:22:03,110 --> 00:22:00,880 that keeps ringing the doorbell just 543 00:22:04,789 --> 00:22:03,120 give me 30 seconds yeah no problem at 544 00:22:07,590 --> 00:22:04,799 all 545 00:22:10,390 --> 00:22:07,600 okay well um 546 00:22:13,190 --> 00:22:10,400 for those of you joining just now uh the 547 00:22:15,830 --> 00:22:13,200 we're having uh mark pasteur one and um 548 00:22:18,789 --> 00:22:15,840 he will uh basically i 549 00:22:21,750 --> 00:22:18,799 i got a chance to meet him long time ago 550 00:22:23,750 --> 00:22:21,760 and i'm happy that we're actually um you 551 00:22:25,590 --> 00:22:23,760 know meeting again and and basically 552 00:22:27,190 --> 00:22:25,600 having this interview for you guys today 553 00:22:29,110 --> 00:22:27,200 so we'll cover a variety of different 554 00:22:31,590 --> 00:22:29,120 subjects but um 555 00:22:33,590 --> 00:22:31,600 i apologize for sorry i'm sorry i 556 00:22:36,070 --> 00:22:33,600 apologize for that interruption uh 557 00:22:37,590 --> 00:22:36,080 apparently it's somebody soliciting and 558 00:22:40,230 --> 00:22:37,600 did not realize 559 00:22:42,470 --> 00:22:40,240 obviously in an interview right so that 560 00:22:44,549 --> 00:22:42,480 occasionally occurs and i apologize to 561 00:22:47,510 --> 00:22:44,559 go back to what i was saying um 562 00:22:50,710 --> 00:22:47,520 you know uh they they did not look at uh 563 00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:50,720 satan as an entity uh it's an embodiment 564 00:22:56,230 --> 00:22:54,720 of consciousness that is about um pure 565 00:22:58,070 --> 00:22:56,240 egotism 566 00:23:00,310 --> 00:22:58,080 moral relativism 567 00:23:03,990 --> 00:23:00,320 and social darwinism 568 00:23:06,470 --> 00:23:04,000 they look at it as um we are the elite 569 00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:06,480 we are the chosen ones we are the ones 570 00:23:10,950 --> 00:23:08,480 who are better than other people and 571 00:23:13,669 --> 00:23:10,960 therefore we're going to basically rule 572 00:23:16,870 --> 00:23:13,679 them we're going to uh initiate some 573 00:23:18,710 --> 00:23:16,880 people into our select club uh of the 574 00:23:21,029 --> 00:23:18,720 administrators of 575 00:23:23,430 --> 00:23:21,039 you know worldly affairs and then the 576 00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:23,440 rest we're going to basically either 577 00:23:29,110 --> 00:23:26,320 rule or destroy at our discretion 578 00:23:30,149 --> 00:23:29,120 that is literally how they see people as 579 00:23:32,870 --> 00:23:30,159 cattle 580 00:23:34,390 --> 00:23:32,880 uh and um you know people will say well 581 00:23:36,710 --> 00:23:34,400 once you're in something like that you 582 00:23:38,230 --> 00:23:36,720 can't ever get out and whenever anybody 583 00:23:40,310 --> 00:23:38,240 says that i clearly know that they don't 584 00:23:43,190 --> 00:23:40,320 understand what satanism is 585 00:23:44,310 --> 00:23:43,200 because they use people at their 586 00:23:46,710 --> 00:23:44,320 discretion 587 00:23:48,310 --> 00:23:46,720 they will groom people they will tap 588 00:23:50,950 --> 00:23:48,320 people and groom them up into higher 589 00:23:53,110 --> 00:23:50,960 levels of their worldwide network at 590 00:23:54,950 --> 00:23:53,120 their discretion and if they look like 591 00:23:57,029 --> 00:23:54,960 if it looks like they can't use you or 592 00:23:59,669 --> 00:23:57,039 that you've developed some level of 593 00:24:02,149 --> 00:23:59,679 conscious conscience that will not allow 594 00:24:04,789 --> 00:24:02,159 you to proceed further in their 595 00:24:06,390 --> 00:24:04,799 agenda and in their endeavors uh they'll 596 00:24:07,590 --> 00:24:06,400 they'll drop you like a hot potato 597 00:24:09,510 --> 00:24:07,600 they'll they'll cut you loose 598 00:24:11,269 --> 00:24:09,520 immediately and not worry about it if 599 00:24:13,430 --> 00:24:11,279 you don't if you aren't already at a 600 00:24:15,909 --> 00:24:13,440 certain level of involvement with them 601 00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:15,919 it's sort of like a mafia in that regard 602 00:24:19,750 --> 00:24:18,000 if you already are involved in the 603 00:24:22,230 --> 00:24:19,760 crimes and you know about crimes that 604 00:24:25,590 --> 00:24:22,240 have been committed then they will not 605 00:24:27,430 --> 00:24:25,600 allow you to be cut loose and if you did 606 00:24:29,350 --> 00:24:27,440 then uh try to get out of that 607 00:24:32,310 --> 00:24:29,360 organization then your life would 608 00:24:34,630 --> 00:24:32,320 probably be in jeopardy in my instance i 609 00:24:38,149 --> 00:24:34,640 never went into uh 610 00:24:40,070 --> 00:24:38,159 the dark occult that deeply i admittedly 611 00:24:41,830 --> 00:24:40,080 will tell people out in the open the 612 00:24:44,070 --> 00:24:41,840 level of involvement that i was involved 613 00:24:46,070 --> 00:24:44,080 in is one step above the public 614 00:24:48,950 --> 00:24:46,080 it is what i consider the boy scout 615 00:24:52,230 --> 00:24:48,960 level you know it is you're you're not 616 00:24:54,310 --> 00:24:52,240 very very uh deeply involved or at a 617 00:24:56,310 --> 00:24:54,320 very high level involved you're involved 618 00:24:58,630 --> 00:24:56,320 that if if the general public that's 619 00:25:03,110 --> 00:24:58,640 being ruled is down here you're one 620 00:25:05,669 --> 00:25:03,120 very thin line level of of of water 621 00:25:08,149 --> 00:25:05,679 above you know a very shallow level of 622 00:25:10,470 --> 00:25:08,159 water above the public uh although you 623 00:25:12,789 --> 00:25:10,480 have crossed the veil into at least 624 00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:12,799 getting a glimpse into what they do 625 00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:14,400 and how they do it 626 00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:17,760 so um you know my uh 627 00:25:22,870 --> 00:25:20,320 understanding of morals and my 628 00:25:24,630 --> 00:25:22,880 conscience would not allow me to proceed 629 00:25:27,669 --> 00:25:24,640 any further than that to start 630 00:25:29,590 --> 00:25:27,679 participating in crimes once again 631 00:25:31,669 --> 00:25:29,600 i thought satanism was something very 632 00:25:33,750 --> 00:25:31,679 different than what it really was once i 633 00:25:35,830 --> 00:25:33,760 got a glimpse past the veil so to speak 634 00:25:37,269 --> 00:25:35,840 once the curtain got pulled back and i 635 00:25:39,510 --> 00:25:37,279 got a little glimpse of what was going 636 00:25:41,909 --> 00:25:39,520 on in the back room i was like that's 637 00:25:44,149 --> 00:25:41,919 enough for me to see i understand what 638 00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:44,159 this is and i'm not going to proceed any 639 00:25:49,029 --> 00:25:47,200 further uh again i was in ego enough 640 00:25:52,549 --> 00:25:49,039 that i wanted 641 00:25:53,750 --> 00:25:52,559 uh satanism uh in my life i wanted you 642 00:25:57,190 --> 00:25:53,760 know 643 00:25:59,110 --> 00:25:57,200 some level of control over other people 644 00:26:00,870 --> 00:25:59,120 from an egotistical point of view 645 00:26:03,750 --> 00:26:00,880 because i felt like knowledge could do 646 00:26:05,510 --> 00:26:03,760 that and if i have a tactical advantage 647 00:26:07,269 --> 00:26:05,520 in knowledge that other people don't 648 00:26:09,110 --> 00:26:07,279 that will give me a tactical advantage 649 00:26:12,149 --> 00:26:09,120 in life that other people don't have and 650 00:26:14,789 --> 00:26:12,159 that's how i naively saw dark occultism 651 00:26:16,630 --> 00:26:14,799 in my youth until i realized these 652 00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:16,640 people are already using it in a very 653 00:26:19,909 --> 00:26:18,880 very organized capacity toward a very 654 00:26:21,070 --> 00:26:19,919 very 655 00:26:23,909 --> 00:26:21,080 dark and 656 00:26:26,470 --> 00:26:23,919 totalitarian agenda and i was never 657 00:26:28,549 --> 00:26:26,480 about enslaving other people you know um 658 00:26:30,070 --> 00:26:28,559 i was about again selfishly wanting 659 00:26:33,029 --> 00:26:30,080 knowledge for myself that other people 660 00:26:34,390 --> 00:26:33,039 don't didn't have uh direct access to uh 661 00:26:36,549 --> 00:26:34,400 which is what what 662 00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:36,559 drew me to such organizations and 663 00:26:41,029 --> 00:26:39,360 schools of thought but um you know even 664 00:26:42,950 --> 00:26:41,039 then if you would have said to me let's 665 00:26:43,909 --> 00:26:42,960 enslave everybody and become the gods of 666 00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:43,919 the earth 667 00:26:47,110 --> 00:26:45,520 i would have like looked at you like you 668 00:26:49,430 --> 00:26:47,120 were crazy and said i want no part of 669 00:26:51,990 --> 00:26:49,440 that uh and that's why i got out pretty 670 00:26:53,590 --> 00:26:52,000 quickly and they were unconcerned they 671 00:26:56,950 --> 00:26:53,600 were like go tell people what you think 672 00:26:59,350 --> 00:26:56,960 you saw boy like you you know 673 00:27:01,110 --> 00:26:59,360 have a very limited understanding of 674 00:27:02,549 --> 00:27:01,120 what is really going on here but some of 675 00:27:04,789 --> 00:27:02,559 them told me 676 00:27:06,789 --> 00:27:04,799 you could speak until your dying breath 677 00:27:09,190 --> 00:27:06,799 and you'll change nothing because we 678 00:27:12,390 --> 00:27:09,200 have people so inculcated into our way 679 00:27:14,549 --> 00:27:12,400 of thinking that we could tell them how 680 00:27:16,549 --> 00:27:14,559 we've manipulated and deceived them and 681 00:27:18,389 --> 00:27:16,559 how we've controlled their minds over 682 00:27:20,470 --> 00:27:18,399 the centuries and we could explain the 683 00:27:22,070 --> 00:27:20,480 exact tactics that we used and how we 684 00:27:22,870 --> 00:27:22,080 did it and they wouldn't believe it from 685 00:27:25,590 --> 00:27:22,880 us 686 00:27:26,630 --> 00:27:25,600 if we told them directly what makes you 687 00:27:28,389 --> 00:27:26,640 think you're going to get them to 688 00:27:29,590 --> 00:27:28,399 understand that's what a satanist told 689 00:27:31,990 --> 00:27:29,600 me once 690 00:27:34,549 --> 00:27:32,000 and i wish i could tell you that he was 691 00:27:37,110 --> 00:27:34,559 incorrect i wish i could tell anybody 692 00:27:39,350 --> 00:27:37,120 that they lied to me at that type of a 693 00:27:40,470 --> 00:27:39,360 level you know they're they're 694 00:27:42,630 --> 00:27:40,480 very 695 00:27:45,190 --> 00:27:42,640 open to what they do when they're in 696 00:27:47,029 --> 00:27:45,200 private quarters of course they'll deny 697 00:27:48,870 --> 00:27:47,039 it to the public you know they won't let 698 00:27:51,190 --> 00:27:48,880 the public hear the types of 699 00:27:53,190 --> 00:27:51,200 conversations that you'll be privy to if 700 00:27:54,630 --> 00:27:53,200 you get within some of their actual 701 00:27:56,789 --> 00:27:54,640 private circles 702 00:27:59,510 --> 00:27:56,799 uh but when they're in their own private 703 00:28:01,590 --> 00:27:59,520 domain they speak very openly and you 704 00:28:05,190 --> 00:28:01,600 know uh just out in the open about what 705 00:28:06,950 --> 00:28:05,200 their agendas are and they feel like 706 00:28:08,710 --> 00:28:06,960 they have people exactly where they want 707 00:28:09,510 --> 00:28:08,720 them they feel like 708 00:28:12,230 --> 00:28:09,520 um 709 00:28:14,070 --> 00:28:12,240 they have such total control over the 710 00:28:14,870 --> 00:28:14,080 media and what people get to see and 711 00:28:17,110 --> 00:28:14,880 hear 712 00:28:19,029 --> 00:28:17,120 and even think on a daily basis they 713 00:28:20,310 --> 00:28:19,039 have total control over the educational 714 00:28:22,389 --> 00:28:20,320 system 715 00:28:24,870 --> 00:28:22,399 they have total control over the police 716 00:28:27,029 --> 00:28:24,880 they own and control all police 717 00:28:29,269 --> 00:28:27,039 organizations they call the police their 718 00:28:31,590 --> 00:28:29,279 dogs that is their name for the police 719 00:28:33,269 --> 00:28:31,600 and military they have no respect for 720 00:28:35,430 --> 00:28:33,279 police and military 721 00:28:39,269 --> 00:28:35,440 they look at them as total order their 722 00:28:41,590 --> 00:28:39,279 total obedient slave order followers 723 00:28:43,430 --> 00:28:41,600 and they call them their dogs meaning 724 00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:43,440 like their pets that obey their every 725 00:28:47,750 --> 00:28:45,600 command that is their name for the 726 00:28:50,149 --> 00:28:47,760 police and military our dogs that's the 727 00:28:52,470 --> 00:28:50,159 only term i've ever heard them refer to 728 00:28:54,789 --> 00:28:52,480 the police and or military 729 00:28:56,549 --> 00:28:54,799 they call the public the average 730 00:28:58,789 --> 00:28:56,559 individual that knows nothing about 731 00:29:00,549 --> 00:28:58,799 their agenda knows nothing about human 732 00:29:02,950 --> 00:29:00,559 psychology knows nothing about the whole 733 00:29:05,750 --> 00:29:02,960 world of the occult they call them the 734 00:29:08,710 --> 00:29:05,760 dead that is their name for them because 735 00:29:11,269 --> 00:29:08,720 they consider them dead in the forms of 736 00:29:13,590 --> 00:29:11,279 the aspects of human consciousness 737 00:29:15,830 --> 00:29:13,600 thought emotion and action they consider 738 00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:15,840 them ignorant which is the death of 739 00:29:20,230 --> 00:29:18,240 thought they consider them apathetic 740 00:29:22,549 --> 00:29:20,240 which is the death of emotion and they 741 00:29:24,870 --> 00:29:22,559 consider them lazy and cowardly which is 742 00:29:27,430 --> 00:29:24,880 the death of action and if those all 743 00:29:28,389 --> 00:29:27,440 three of those aspects of consciousness 744 00:29:31,430 --> 00:29:28,399 are 745 00:29:33,990 --> 00:29:31,440 weak or deadened or non-active 746 00:29:36,870 --> 00:29:34,000 they consider those people totally 747 00:29:38,789 --> 00:29:36,880 unconscious or quote-unquote dead and 748 00:29:41,510 --> 00:29:38,799 that's what they refer to the average 749 00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:41,520 human being as unfortunately uh and 750 00:29:44,789 --> 00:29:43,360 again it's another area that i wish i 751 00:29:46,470 --> 00:29:44,799 could you know 752 00:29:47,909 --> 00:29:46,480 say that it is actually different than 753 00:29:50,549 --> 00:29:47,919 that that it's uh that they're 754 00:29:52,789 --> 00:29:50,559 completely wrong and that that it isn't 755 00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:52,799 like that but i can't tell you that the 756 00:29:57,830 --> 00:29:55,760 these sick evil psychopathic people are 757 00:30:00,789 --> 00:29:57,840 completely wrong when i look at the 758 00:30:01,669 --> 00:30:00,799 general population i see exactly what 759 00:30:04,149 --> 00:30:01,679 they 760 00:30:06,789 --> 00:30:04,159 told me is there and i'm not you know 761 00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:06,799 under their mind control or thrall you 762 00:30:11,430 --> 00:30:08,880 know it's like i abandoned that ideology 763 00:30:13,590 --> 00:30:11,440 a long long long time ago but i'm not 764 00:30:15,909 --> 00:30:13,600 someone who says it all has to be 765 00:30:18,549 --> 00:30:15,919 positive it all has to be good that evil 766 00:30:20,710 --> 00:30:18,559 can never win like this is just just uh 767 00:30:23,350 --> 00:30:20,720 you know new age fairy tale stuff you 768 00:30:26,710 --> 00:30:23,360 know of course evil can win you know the 769 00:30:29,350 --> 00:30:26,720 people who the nazis uh you know uh uh 770 00:30:32,230 --> 00:30:29,360 practically genocided uh you know 771 00:30:34,389 --> 00:30:32,240 they could the nazis were winning until 772 00:30:36,789 --> 00:30:34,399 war broke out and more lives had to be 773 00:30:39,510 --> 00:30:36,799 cost to stop them uh what about 774 00:30:42,149 --> 00:30:39,520 communist uh organizations and regimes 775 00:30:44,070 --> 00:30:42,159 over time did the red chinese not win 776 00:30:46,470 --> 00:30:44,080 over the people that they mass murdered 777 00:30:48,389 --> 00:30:46,480 the did the soviet uh you know the the 778 00:30:50,389 --> 00:30:48,399 soviet communists not went over the 779 00:30:53,029 --> 00:30:50,399 people that they mass murdered and 780 00:30:54,789 --> 00:30:53,039 slaughtered uh how many mass 781 00:30:58,070 --> 00:30:54,799 totalitarian slaughters have happened 782 00:31:00,389 --> 00:30:58,080 over human history uh did evil not win 783 00:31:02,630 --> 00:31:00,399 in those instances just because 784 00:31:04,870 --> 00:31:02,640 eventually that regime 785 00:31:07,190 --> 00:31:04,880 died off offer went away because of uh 786 00:31:09,269 --> 00:31:07,200 you know evil collapsing upon itself 787 00:31:11,190 --> 00:31:09,279 that doesn't mean that good people can't 788 00:31:13,509 --> 00:31:11,200 uh lose that doesn't mean that good 789 00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:13,519 always wins you know it just means that 790 00:31:17,990 --> 00:31:15,840 even evil can collapse in upon itself 791 00:31:19,590 --> 00:31:18,000 after a time you know that doesn't 792 00:31:21,909 --> 00:31:19,600 that's not an encouraging thing that 793 00:31:23,669 --> 00:31:21,919 people should aspire to to like let evil 794 00:31:26,070 --> 00:31:23,679 keep doing this over and over and over 795 00:31:28,549 --> 00:31:26,080 again throughout human history until 796 00:31:31,269 --> 00:31:28,559 eventually that evil regime like 797 00:31:33,350 --> 00:31:31,279 balls over onto itself and that regime 798 00:31:36,070 --> 00:31:33,360 collapses only for a new one to rise 799 00:31:38,710 --> 00:31:36,080 again that's not spiritual that's not 800 00:31:41,909 --> 00:31:38,720 enlightened that's not even smart 801 00:31:44,230 --> 00:31:41,919 uh it's a very dumb outlook uh on human 802 00:31:46,470 --> 00:31:44,240 life and human endeavors and it's one 803 00:31:49,750 --> 00:31:46,480 the people who have a very short view of 804 00:31:53,750 --> 00:31:49,760 human history uh take it's not somebody 805 00:31:56,389 --> 00:31:53,760 who knows uh uh any type of uh 806 00:31:59,110 --> 00:31:56,399 in a deep way what has really transpired 807 00:32:01,269 --> 00:31:59,120 in our world over the course of time and 808 00:32:03,190 --> 00:32:01,279 um you know this is uh what i've been 809 00:32:05,909 --> 00:32:03,200 trying to warn people about in my work 810 00:32:08,070 --> 00:32:05,919 for you know the last 14 years uh we're 811 00:32:10,070 --> 00:32:08,080 coming up to the 14th anniversary of 812 00:32:12,470 --> 00:32:10,080 what on earth is happening on november 813 00:32:14,310 --> 00:32:12,480 11th of this year and i've been trying 814 00:32:16,310 --> 00:32:14,320 to explain to people that this is what 815 00:32:17,430 --> 00:32:16,320 satanism is they're already in control 816 00:32:18,870 --> 00:32:17,440 of the world it's not that they're 817 00:32:21,029 --> 00:32:18,880 trying to take over the world they've 818 00:32:22,149 --> 00:32:21,039 been in control of the world for 819 00:32:23,750 --> 00:32:22,159 millennia 820 00:32:26,470 --> 00:32:23,760 and they want tighter control of the 821 00:32:28,950 --> 00:32:26,480 world and that's what this recent psyop 822 00:32:32,470 --> 00:32:28,960 of covid19 is all about that's what the 823 00:32:35,190 --> 00:32:32,480 whole you know agenda to uh jab everyone 824 00:32:37,110 --> 00:32:35,200 uh put uh genetically modifying material 825 00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:37,120 in their body because they are trying to 826 00:32:41,590 --> 00:32:39,600 prevent a real awakening from occurring 827 00:32:44,789 --> 00:32:41,600 and they can only do that through fear 828 00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:44,799 and devastation of the human um you know 829 00:32:50,149 --> 00:32:47,760 genetic system and um they're they're 830 00:32:52,070 --> 00:32:50,159 winning you know uh if people think that 831 00:32:54,789 --> 00:32:52,080 there's a real awakening happening right 832 00:32:56,549 --> 00:32:54,799 now uh and the world still does not 833 00:32:58,950 --> 00:32:56,559 really understand about the world of the 834 00:33:01,269 --> 00:32:58,960 occult at least hardly anyone that i 835 00:33:03,509 --> 00:33:01,279 bump into on a daily basis does 836 00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:03,519 uh if they have any understanding of it 837 00:33:06,870 --> 00:33:05,200 whatsoever they simply think this is 838 00:33:08,149 --> 00:33:06,880 some sort of a conspiracy theory and 839 00:33:10,389 --> 00:33:08,159 it's because they have no personal 840 00:33:12,470 --> 00:33:10,399 involvement with it in their lives 841 00:33:14,310 --> 00:33:12,480 they have never actually been involved 842 00:33:16,789 --> 00:33:14,320 in the world of occultism at all for 843 00:33:19,669 --> 00:33:16,799 real at a real level in their lives so 844 00:33:22,710 --> 00:33:19,679 it's like you know talking to people who 845 00:33:24,230 --> 00:33:22,720 i've heard about paris i've heard about 846 00:33:25,590 --> 00:33:24,240 other cities in europe and yet they've 847 00:33:28,070 --> 00:33:25,600 never been there and they're talking to 848 00:33:29,590 --> 00:33:28,080 people who are native to paris you know 849 00:33:30,870 --> 00:33:29,600 and it's like 850 00:33:32,389 --> 00:33:30,880 you you hear what they're saying and 851 00:33:33,669 --> 00:33:32,399 it's like nothing like what it really is 852 00:33:35,269 --> 00:33:33,679 and they think that they know something 853 00:33:37,430 --> 00:33:35,279 about it it's like people who have 854 00:33:39,430 --> 00:33:37,440 actually been in war and they're talking 855 00:33:40,870 --> 00:33:39,440 to people who have never been in war and 856 00:33:42,710 --> 00:33:40,880 they're telling them all about what it 857 00:33:44,149 --> 00:33:42,720 really is like and the people who've 858 00:33:45,669 --> 00:33:44,159 never been in there say oh no you're 859 00:33:47,430 --> 00:33:45,679 completely wrong it's not like that it's 860 00:33:49,909 --> 00:33:47,440 like how i think it is 861 00:33:52,470 --> 00:33:49,919 this is like what society today is 862 00:33:53,990 --> 00:33:52,480 really like when it comes to uh any kind 863 00:33:56,470 --> 00:33:54,000 of an understanding of the world of the 864 00:33:59,029 --> 00:33:56,480 occult or the level of power that they 865 00:34:01,590 --> 00:33:59,039 really have you know over our lives uh 866 00:34:04,470 --> 00:34:01,600 it's um you know we're in a very 867 00:34:06,549 --> 00:34:04,480 naive childish mindset when it comes to 868 00:34:08,389 --> 00:34:06,559 this as a people uh there are still 869 00:34:10,389 --> 00:34:08,399 people who will insist that they've 870 00:34:12,069 --> 00:34:10,399 never while they've never been involved 871 00:34:14,230 --> 00:34:12,079 in satanism at all that they know more 872 00:34:16,790 --> 00:34:14,240 about it than i do having been a priest 873 00:34:19,349 --> 00:34:16,800 of the religion right it's like if you 874 00:34:21,589 --> 00:34:19,359 wanted to know about you know uh what 875 00:34:22,869 --> 00:34:21,599 goes on inside the ranks of the catholic 876 00:34:24,470 --> 00:34:22,879 church you might want to talk to a 877 00:34:27,430 --> 00:34:24,480 catholic priest or a bishop or a 878 00:34:28,950 --> 00:34:27,440 cardinal right a clergy member you know 879 00:34:30,389 --> 00:34:28,960 if you want to know what goes on inside 880 00:34:32,869 --> 00:34:30,399 a jewish synagogue you might want to 881 00:34:34,869 --> 00:34:32,879 talk to one of the rabbis et cetera well 882 00:34:37,510 --> 00:34:34,879 i was a priest within the satanic 883 00:34:39,030 --> 00:34:37,520 organization the satanic network 884 00:34:41,349 --> 00:34:39,040 and that means that i know a thing or 885 00:34:42,869 --> 00:34:41,359 two about the ideology and people still 886 00:34:45,190 --> 00:34:42,879 insist it's all about the worship of 887 00:34:46,710 --> 00:34:45,200 demons or the invocation of non-human 888 00:34:49,909 --> 00:34:46,720 entities and i'm telling you that's not 889 00:34:52,310 --> 00:34:49,919 what satanism is satanism is an ideology 890 00:34:54,869 --> 00:34:52,320 it's a way of being in the world that is 891 00:34:56,629 --> 00:34:54,879 about ruling over others gratifying the 892 00:34:58,550 --> 00:34:56,639 ego not caring about the difference 893 00:35:00,550 --> 00:34:58,560 between right and wrong 894 00:35:02,310 --> 00:35:00,560 not caring about you know choosing right 895 00:35:04,630 --> 00:35:02,320 over wrong it's just whatever i can get 896 00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:04,640 for myself is what's good for me and 897 00:35:08,470 --> 00:35:06,960 that's what's right and if it if it goes 898 00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:08,480 against me or anything that i want 899 00:35:12,630 --> 00:35:11,520 that's what's wrong period okay and you 900 00:35:14,870 --> 00:35:12,640 know um 901 00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:14,880 that's that's that's all it really is 902 00:35:20,710 --> 00:35:17,520 about its selfishness raised to the uh 903 00:35:22,310 --> 00:35:20,720 level of godhood uh the ego is the god 904 00:35:25,430 --> 00:35:22,320 and uh if you really just look at 905 00:35:27,190 --> 00:35:25,440 society right just how egotistical are 906 00:35:28,950 --> 00:35:27,200 people are people 907 00:35:31,829 --> 00:35:28,960 really concerned with 908 00:35:33,510 --> 00:35:31,839 the uh well-being and freedom of others 909 00:35:35,510 --> 00:35:33,520 are people really concerned with what 910 00:35:37,510 --> 00:35:35,520 goes on on a worldwide scale as opposed 911 00:35:38,950 --> 00:35:37,520 to just their immediate the immediate 912 00:35:41,349 --> 00:35:38,960 sense of what's happening directly 913 00:35:42,790 --> 00:35:41,359 around them uh are are most people 914 00:35:44,710 --> 00:35:42,800 totally selfish and only think about 915 00:35:46,150 --> 00:35:44,720 themselves and what they could do for 916 00:35:47,430 --> 00:35:46,160 themselves from the minute they wake up 917 00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:47,440 till the minute they go to sleep at 918 00:35:50,710 --> 00:35:48,240 night 919 00:35:52,470 --> 00:35:50,720 i would say over 95 percent of people 920 00:35:54,069 --> 00:35:52,480 are like that are in that mindset i'd 921 00:35:56,230 --> 00:35:54,079 say that that would be being generous 922 00:35:57,430 --> 00:35:56,240 probably over 98 of human beings are in 923 00:35:59,270 --> 00:35:57,440 that mindset 924 00:36:00,710 --> 00:35:59,280 how many people are moral relativists 925 00:36:02,390 --> 00:36:00,720 that don't think there's any objective 926 00:36:03,750 --> 00:36:02,400 standard of right and wrong 927 00:36:05,670 --> 00:36:03,760 they think right and wrong are just 928 00:36:07,430 --> 00:36:05,680 human constructs that we can get we can 929 00:36:09,430 --> 00:36:07,440 make up at our whim at our discretion 930 00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:09,440 we're the arbiters of right and wrong 931 00:36:13,589 --> 00:36:11,280 you know there's no objective standard 932 00:36:15,270 --> 00:36:13,599 of right and wrong behavior uh human 933 00:36:16,630 --> 00:36:15,280 beings can make it up and it can be 934 00:36:18,870 --> 00:36:16,640 different in different places or at 935 00:36:21,589 --> 00:36:18,880 different times you travel across an 936 00:36:23,430 --> 00:36:21,599 imaginary line called a state border and 937 00:36:25,109 --> 00:36:23,440 what you can do over here as a right you 938 00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:25,119 could be jailed for over here across 939 00:36:28,950 --> 00:36:27,760 this imaginary line you know and people 940 00:36:31,349 --> 00:36:28,960 think that's perfectly normal 941 00:36:33,750 --> 00:36:31,359 justifiable and just okay you know they 942 00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:33,760 don't see any contradiction any moral 943 00:36:37,990 --> 00:36:35,920 contradiction with that you know in in 944 00:36:40,069 --> 00:36:38,000 like 15 states in the united states you 945 00:36:42,470 --> 00:36:40,079 can carry a 946 00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:42,480 loaded firearm on your person out in the 947 00:36:46,550 --> 00:36:44,880 open even if it's a handgun with no 948 00:36:47,990 --> 00:36:46,560 permit okay 949 00:36:50,230 --> 00:36:48,000 but then in the other 950 00:36:51,910 --> 00:36:50,240 uh you know 35 states you could be 951 00:36:54,870 --> 00:36:51,920 jailed for doing the same action well 952 00:36:56,870 --> 00:36:54,880 who's correct which one is right 953 00:36:58,310 --> 00:36:56,880 why why can certain rules apply over 954 00:37:00,310 --> 00:36:58,320 here and don't apply over there well 955 00:37:02,710 --> 00:37:00,320 that's satanism that's moral relativism 956 00:37:03,430 --> 00:37:02,720 that's their that's their whole mindset 957 00:37:05,750 --> 00:37:03,440 is 958 00:37:07,990 --> 00:37:05,760 we can make up because we're in charge 959 00:37:09,589 --> 00:37:08,000 over here right we can make up what's 960 00:37:10,870 --> 00:37:09,599 right here you go to another country 961 00:37:13,270 --> 00:37:10,880 they have completely different set of 962 00:37:14,790 --> 00:37:13,280 rules the rulers over there they can 963 00:37:17,109 --> 00:37:14,800 make up what's right and wrong over 964 00:37:19,829 --> 00:37:17,119 there anybody that thinks that right and 965 00:37:20,829 --> 00:37:19,839 wrong can be arbitrated by human beings 966 00:37:25,910 --> 00:37:20,839 is 967 00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:25,920 100 percent inculcated and indoctrinated 968 00:37:28,470 --> 00:37:27,040 into 969 00:37:30,870 --> 00:37:28,480 satanism 970 00:37:33,910 --> 00:37:30,880 that is their real religion deep down 971 00:37:36,710 --> 00:37:33,920 inside their mind and their heart 972 00:37:38,870 --> 00:37:36,720 without any question or doubt and this 973 00:37:41,589 --> 00:37:38,880 is unfortunately where most human beings 974 00:37:43,190 --> 00:37:41,599 are at they believe in moral relativism 975 00:37:45,109 --> 00:37:43,200 that people can make up what right and 976 00:37:47,349 --> 00:37:45,119 wrong are to just give you the answer 977 00:37:50,310 --> 00:37:47,359 the answer is the 15 states that do 978 00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:50,320 allow open carry are correct it is a 979 00:37:53,910 --> 00:37:52,320 right it is a right to defend yourself 980 00:37:55,670 --> 00:37:53,920 with any kind of a weapon that you so 981 00:37:57,109 --> 00:37:55,680 choose that's a human right called the 982 00:37:58,950 --> 00:37:57,119 right of self-defense which is one of 983 00:38:01,109 --> 00:37:58,960 the main pillars of morality and 984 00:38:03,349 --> 00:38:01,119 enlightenment and natural law you know 985 00:38:05,990 --> 00:38:03,359 the other 35 states have it wrong and 986 00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:06,000 they are exercising a form of slavery 987 00:38:09,990 --> 00:38:07,680 over other people by telling them you 988 00:38:12,230 --> 00:38:10,000 may not arm yourself as you see fit 989 00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:12,240 and that's where we're at in society 990 00:38:16,470 --> 00:38:14,880 we're at a place where egotism and moral 991 00:38:18,390 --> 00:38:16,480 relativism has led to the human 992 00:38:20,950 --> 00:38:18,400 condition called slavery 993 00:38:24,069 --> 00:38:20,960 we're a slave species we're a slave race 994 00:38:25,589 --> 00:38:24,079 humanity is enslaved and this is what 995 00:38:27,109 --> 00:38:25,599 people don't understand they don't 996 00:38:29,910 --> 00:38:27,119 understand it because they're still in 997 00:38:31,910 --> 00:38:29,920 the mentality of satanism see that's how 998 00:38:34,950 --> 00:38:31,920 satanists rule other people that's how 999 00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:34,960 the world of the dark occult can rule 1000 00:38:41,589 --> 00:38:38,160 the the general masses of their slaves 1001 00:38:43,910 --> 00:38:41,599 because if the slave class takes on a 1002 00:38:46,630 --> 00:38:43,920 lower level mentality of the master 1003 00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:46,640 class in other words here's the real 1004 00:38:51,430 --> 00:38:49,200 mindset of the masters up here right and 1005 00:38:53,910 --> 00:38:51,440 then they give us this tiny subset of 1006 00:38:55,510 --> 00:38:53,920 their mentality right but they also 1007 00:38:58,150 --> 00:38:55,520 teach us that there's this thing called 1008 00:38:59,829 --> 00:38:58,160 authority in place right and that 1009 00:39:02,710 --> 00:38:59,839 authority means that there are some 1010 00:39:05,349 --> 00:39:02,720 people who get to create edicts they get 1011 00:39:08,230 --> 00:39:05,359 to make up what the laws are and that's 1012 00:39:10,310 --> 00:39:08,240 their edicts as the masters of the world 1013 00:39:13,349 --> 00:39:10,320 as the ruling class 1014 00:39:15,829 --> 00:39:13,359 and their decrees that are often 1015 00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:15,839 completely arbitrary just because they 1016 00:39:21,030 --> 00:39:18,640 want to make the laws in their geo 1017 00:39:21,829 --> 00:39:21,040 geographic vicinity of the earth 1018 00:39:26,230 --> 00:39:21,839 and 1019 00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:26,240 they see fit to implement because it 1020 00:39:30,950 --> 00:39:28,480 suits their them and their agendas 1021 00:39:33,030 --> 00:39:30,960 anywhere any in any uh geographical 1022 00:39:35,829 --> 00:39:33,040 region of the world that's called their 1023 00:39:37,430 --> 00:39:35,839 jurisdiction jurisdiction just says 1024 00:39:41,430 --> 00:39:37,440 exactly what this is 1025 00:39:42,470 --> 00:39:41,440 us urus in latin jus means right 1026 00:39:43,510 --> 00:39:42,480 or law 1027 00:39:47,430 --> 00:39:43,520 and then 1028 00:39:49,670 --> 00:39:47,440 dicta dictare dictare in latin means to 1029 00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:49,680 speak or to say so jurisdiction 1030 00:39:54,630 --> 00:39:52,000 literally means to say what the law is 1031 00:39:57,910 --> 00:39:54,640 to speak what the law is it means the 1032 00:39:59,990 --> 00:39:57,920 law is whatever i say it is right it's 1033 00:40:02,470 --> 00:40:00,000 not objective and in nature it's 1034 00:40:05,349 --> 00:40:02,480 whatever i say it is it's my arbitrary 1035 00:40:07,670 --> 00:40:05,359 decree well that's called kingship right 1036 00:40:09,910 --> 00:40:07,680 that's all authority ever has been 1037 00:40:12,550 --> 00:40:09,920 there i ask people please define the 1038 00:40:14,790 --> 00:40:12,560 difference between modern day authority 1039 00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:14,800 and old world kingship what's the 1040 00:40:18,309 --> 00:40:16,720 difference there is no difference if you 1041 00:40:20,309 --> 00:40:18,319 were being honest with ourselves there's 1042 00:40:21,589 --> 00:40:20,319 no difference people have never thought 1043 00:40:23,109 --> 00:40:21,599 about it like that you know why they 1044 00:40:24,710 --> 00:40:23,119 don't want to think about it like that 1045 00:40:26,630 --> 00:40:24,720 because they don't want to think 1046 00:40:28,309 --> 00:40:26,640 that they're slaves that they don't want 1047 00:40:31,270 --> 00:40:28,319 to think that not only their slaves that 1048 00:40:33,430 --> 00:40:31,280 this is wrong that it's immoral that it 1049 00:40:35,589 --> 00:40:33,440 was never morally justified that it's 1050 00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:35,599 always been morally illegitimate and 1051 00:40:39,030 --> 00:40:37,440 they don't want the responsibility to do 1052 00:40:40,470 --> 00:40:39,040 a damn thing about it because they're 1053 00:40:42,150 --> 00:40:40,480 cowards 1054 00:40:44,390 --> 00:40:42,160 that's real talk 1055 00:40:46,150 --> 00:40:44,400 that's the real way that it is most 1056 00:40:47,430 --> 00:40:46,160 people won't say that to another living 1057 00:40:49,510 --> 00:40:47,440 being even 1058 00:40:51,349 --> 00:40:49,520 over a video connection let alone to 1059 00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:51,359 their face i've said it to many people's 1060 00:40:55,589 --> 00:40:53,760 face and will continue to say it to 1061 00:40:58,069 --> 00:40:55,599 their face it doesn't matter whether you 1062 00:40:59,910 --> 00:40:58,079 recognize it or as true or not it's the 1063 00:41:02,150 --> 00:40:59,920 truth whether you believe that or not 1064 00:41:03,829 --> 00:41:02,160 that's the reality of our world 1065 00:41:05,750 --> 00:41:03,839 there's no difference in ancient 1066 00:41:09,430 --> 00:41:05,760 kingship with modern authority or 1067 00:41:13,430 --> 00:41:09,440 government all it is is the authority or 1068 00:41:15,589 --> 00:41:13,440 the rulership has been diffused to 1069 00:41:17,750 --> 00:41:15,599 more people there in the ancient world 1070 00:41:20,150 --> 00:41:17,760 of kingship there was one ruler he had 1071 00:41:22,390 --> 00:41:20,160 total authority vested in him and he 1072 00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:22,400 claimed divine right to rule he claimed 1073 00:41:26,230 --> 00:41:24,160 god gave me this right 1074 00:41:27,829 --> 00:41:26,240 and in the modern day we have government 1075 00:41:29,829 --> 00:41:27,839 where the authority is just diffused to 1076 00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:29,839 an oligarchical group calling themselves 1077 00:41:34,710 --> 00:41:32,240 government they're the new lawmakers who 1078 00:41:37,109 --> 00:41:34,720 say whatever the laws are and write it 1079 00:41:38,790 --> 00:41:37,119 down in a ritualistic form and say that 1080 00:41:39,910 --> 00:41:38,800 this is now the law that that binds 1081 00:41:41,990 --> 00:41:39,920 everyone 1082 00:41:44,950 --> 00:41:42,000 and then you know they call themselves 1083 00:41:46,710 --> 00:41:44,960 government or the authorities and uh 1084 00:41:49,109 --> 00:41:46,720 other people they say have a moral 1085 00:41:51,109 --> 00:41:49,119 obligation to obey these laws until they 1086 00:41:53,030 --> 00:41:51,119 can beg them to change them 1087 00:41:54,150 --> 00:41:53,040 if they're successful in that see 1088 00:41:58,710 --> 00:41:54,160 there's no 1089 00:42:00,230 --> 00:41:58,720 objective standard of right and wrong 1090 00:42:03,670 --> 00:42:00,240 the real 1091 00:42:04,870 --> 00:42:03,680 which is the only law that does exist is 1092 00:42:07,510 --> 00:42:04,880 natural law 1093 00:42:08,870 --> 00:42:07,520 and that is the true objective standards 1094 00:42:11,670 --> 00:42:08,880 of right and wrong 1095 00:42:13,750 --> 00:42:11,680 what are rights because they are actions 1096 00:42:16,309 --> 00:42:13,760 that do not initiate harm to other 1097 00:42:18,230 --> 00:42:16,319 sentient beings and which behaviors are 1098 00:42:20,390 --> 00:42:18,240 not rights which are wrongdoings which 1099 00:42:22,309 --> 00:42:20,400 are transgressions against natural law 1100 00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:22,319 because they do initiate 1101 00:42:27,109 --> 00:42:24,720 uh harm against other sentient beings 1102 00:42:29,030 --> 00:42:27,119 and so there's an actual list of seven 1103 00:42:31,109 --> 00:42:29,040 things that are transgressions against 1104 00:42:33,430 --> 00:42:31,119 natural law they're the true seven 1105 00:42:35,750 --> 00:42:33,440 deadly sins not the church's seven 1106 00:42:38,550 --> 00:42:35,760 deadly sins religions seven deadly sins 1107 00:42:40,630 --> 00:42:38,560 which are vices not actual physical 1108 00:42:42,950 --> 00:42:40,640 transgressions against others you know 1109 00:42:45,670 --> 00:42:42,960 the vices of the seven deadly sins of 1110 00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:45,680 the church are 1111 00:42:49,829 --> 00:42:47,520 let's see it's um 1112 00:42:52,550 --> 00:42:49,839 um 1113 00:42:54,790 --> 00:42:52,560 uh pride anger 1114 00:42:57,829 --> 00:42:54,800 jealousy uh 1115 00:43:01,510 --> 00:42:57,839 pride anger jealousy lust 1116 00:43:05,109 --> 00:43:04,309 greed and one other one that i'm leaving 1117 00:43:09,109 --> 00:43:05,119 out 1118 00:43:12,069 --> 00:43:09,119 pride gluttony sloth lust anger jealousy 1119 00:43:14,790 --> 00:43:12,079 and greed that's it pride gluttony sloth 1120 00:43:17,589 --> 00:43:14,800 lost anger jealousy greed that's the 1121 00:43:19,910 --> 00:43:17,599 so-called seven deadly sins of religion 1122 00:43:22,470 --> 00:43:19,920 of you know christianity 1123 00:43:24,630 --> 00:43:22,480 and all of those are vices none of those 1124 00:43:26,870 --> 00:43:24,640 are initiations of direct harm against 1125 00:43:29,349 --> 00:43:26,880 other sentient beings they're just vices 1126 00:43:31,430 --> 00:43:29,359 you know pride a vice of the self 1127 00:43:33,750 --> 00:43:31,440 glutton the advice of the self 1128 00:43:36,150 --> 00:43:33,760 sloth a vice of the self 1129 00:43:37,910 --> 00:43:36,160 uh lust again all vices of the self you 1130 00:43:39,270 --> 00:43:37,920 can go through them all but the real 1131 00:43:40,870 --> 00:43:39,280 seven deadly sins the real 1132 00:43:45,270 --> 00:43:40,880 transgressions against natural law 1133 00:43:48,470 --> 00:43:45,280 principles are murder assault rape theft 1134 00:43:49,829 --> 00:43:48,480 trespass coercion and deception that's 1135 00:43:52,150 --> 00:43:49,839 the real seven that these sins that's 1136 00:43:54,870 --> 00:43:52,160 how you can harm anyone else 1137 00:43:57,190 --> 00:43:54,880 you can bring harm to people by murder 1138 00:43:59,430 --> 00:43:57,200 the theft of life without your having 1139 00:44:01,190 --> 00:43:59,440 the right to take that life assault the 1140 00:44:02,630 --> 00:44:01,200 theft of bodily well-being that isn't 1141 00:44:04,150 --> 00:44:02,640 your right to take 1142 00:44:06,150 --> 00:44:04,160 um 1143 00:44:08,630 --> 00:44:06,160 rape the theft of sexual free will 1144 00:44:10,710 --> 00:44:08,640 association which you have no right to 1145 00:44:12,309 --> 00:44:10,720 uh to take without when it is not uh 1146 00:44:13,190 --> 00:44:12,319 mutually agreed upon 1147 00:44:15,510 --> 00:44:13,200 um 1148 00:44:18,870 --> 00:44:15,520 murder assault rape theft the theft of 1149 00:44:22,069 --> 00:44:18,880 property the stealing of property 1150 00:44:24,550 --> 00:44:22,079 trespass the theft of one's security in 1151 00:44:26,309 --> 00:44:24,560 their own uh space their own domain 1152 00:44:28,150 --> 00:44:26,319 their own living space 1153 00:44:29,349 --> 00:44:28,160 um 1154 00:44:31,510 --> 00:44:29,359 coercion 1155 00:44:33,750 --> 00:44:31,520 that's uh the theft of free will 1156 00:44:35,589 --> 00:44:33,760 okay and and deception is the theft of 1157 00:44:37,829 --> 00:44:35,599 necessary information that allows people 1158 00:44:39,109 --> 00:44:37,839 to make informed truly informed 1159 00:44:40,950 --> 00:44:39,119 decisions 1160 00:44:43,270 --> 00:44:40,960 so you're you're stealing in all of 1161 00:44:45,430 --> 00:44:43,280 those instances and that's the one wrong 1162 00:44:48,069 --> 00:44:45,440 doing is to take that which does not 1163 00:44:50,550 --> 00:44:48,079 belong to you every form of wrongdoing 1164 00:44:54,069 --> 00:44:50,560 that we can engage upon uh in a 1165 00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:54,079 spiritual capacity uh in a uh 1166 00:44:58,550 --> 00:44:56,400 a capacity of transgression against true 1167 00:45:00,150 --> 00:44:58,560 natural law the real 1168 00:45:01,910 --> 00:45:00,160 laws of morality 1169 00:45:04,230 --> 00:45:01,920 uh is a form of theft 1170 00:45:07,030 --> 00:45:04,240 so there's only one real rule of the 1171 00:45:08,230 --> 00:45:07,040 universe there's only one real law 1172 00:45:09,910 --> 00:45:08,240 don't steal 1173 00:45:10,790 --> 00:45:09,920 don't take that which does not belong to 1174 00:45:12,630 --> 00:45:10,800 you 1175 00:45:14,470 --> 00:45:12,640 and that that involves understanding 1176 00:45:15,510 --> 00:45:14,480 what is our property and what is not our 1177 00:45:17,349 --> 00:45:15,520 property 1178 00:45:18,870 --> 00:45:17,359 and most people don't know what that is 1179 00:45:20,630 --> 00:45:18,880 because they'll advocate that a portion 1180 00:45:22,230 --> 00:45:20,640 of someone else's property is theirs 1181 00:45:24,069 --> 00:45:22,240 rightfully to take or be seized by 1182 00:45:26,470 --> 00:45:24,079 someone else and given to them 1183 00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:26,480 uh they'll advocate that the violence 1184 00:45:31,349 --> 00:45:28,800 that is justified you know used to 1185 00:45:32,950 --> 00:45:31,359 justify that behavior is someone else's 1186 00:45:34,790 --> 00:45:32,960 right to take 1187 00:45:36,390 --> 00:45:34,800 uh and they'll they'll advocate for 1188 00:45:38,309 --> 00:45:36,400 their own enslavement this is what 1189 00:45:40,630 --> 00:45:38,319 government is you know 1190 00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:40,640 it's it's stockholm syndrome 1191 00:45:44,950 --> 00:45:42,240 the belief in government is a form of 1192 00:45:47,430 --> 00:45:44,960 stockholm syndrome in which the slaves 1193 00:45:49,990 --> 00:45:47,440 want their slave enslavement and want 1194 00:45:52,470 --> 00:45:50,000 the rulers to rule over them and it's 1195 00:45:53,349 --> 00:45:52,480 mass madness this is a mass 1196 00:45:54,950 --> 00:45:53,359 cult 1197 00:45:56,230 --> 00:45:54,960 that's what we're in 1198 00:45:58,230 --> 00:45:56,240 you know and it's not talked about 1199 00:46:00,710 --> 00:45:58,240 enough in this community 1200 00:46:02,790 --> 00:46:00,720 the ufo community often wants to simply 1201 00:46:05,430 --> 00:46:02,800 talk about extraterrestrial intelligence 1202 00:46:07,349 --> 00:46:05,440 and again we could explore the ideology 1203 00:46:09,510 --> 00:46:07,359 of the rulers of the world indefinitely 1204 00:46:11,190 --> 00:46:09,520 and at some level yes some of them do 1205 00:46:13,990 --> 00:46:11,200 believe in that they're doing the 1206 00:46:16,870 --> 00:46:14,000 bidding of higher level entities uh you 1207 00:46:19,430 --> 00:46:16,880 know uh that are extra dimensional or 1208 00:46:20,950 --> 00:46:19,440 extraterrestrial uh without a doubt that 1209 00:46:23,589 --> 00:46:20,960 is a belief within 1210 00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:23,599 uh some satanist mindset 1211 00:46:28,630 --> 00:46:26,880 uh most of them are simply atheistic uh 1212 00:46:29,990 --> 00:46:28,640 that just believe in 1213 00:46:31,829 --> 00:46:30,000 the accumulation of more and more 1214 00:46:32,870 --> 00:46:31,839 worldly power and the enslavement of 1215 00:46:35,190 --> 00:46:32,880 others 1216 00:46:37,510 --> 00:46:35,200 but uh there are is a subsection of them 1217 00:46:39,670 --> 00:46:37,520 i would call them the luciferians 1218 00:46:42,550 --> 00:46:39,680 that do believe that they're uh either 1219 00:46:45,190 --> 00:46:42,560 engaged with a plan with a partnering 1220 00:46:48,390 --> 00:46:45,200 with or doing the bidding of 1221 00:46:50,230 --> 00:46:48,400 off-world entities so um while that is 1222 00:46:52,470 --> 00:46:50,240 one of their beliefs i don't necessarily 1223 00:46:54,950 --> 00:46:52,480 share that belief i do believe that this 1224 00:46:57,510 --> 00:46:54,960 agenda may indeed go off-world to 1225 00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:57,520 non-human forms of intelligence but i 1226 00:47:01,589 --> 00:46:59,520 don't focus on that because i think that 1227 00:47:04,150 --> 00:47:01,599 the solution is the same it doesn't 1228 00:47:06,790 --> 00:47:04,160 matter who is at the highest level or if 1229 00:47:08,470 --> 00:47:06,800 even indeed it may go off world to 1230 00:47:10,950 --> 00:47:08,480 off-world agendas 1231 00:47:12,470 --> 00:47:10,960 uh the solution is the same 1232 00:47:15,109 --> 00:47:12,480 stop 1233 00:47:17,430 --> 00:47:15,119 conducting behaviors which are wrong 1234 00:47:19,750 --> 00:47:17,440 doings which 1235 00:47:21,750 --> 00:47:19,760 do violate the rights the inherent 1236 00:47:24,150 --> 00:47:21,760 natural law rights of others and do 1237 00:47:25,990 --> 00:47:24,160 initiate harm to other beings regardless 1238 00:47:27,589 --> 00:47:26,000 of how much you're being paid to do it 1239 00:47:29,109 --> 00:47:27,599 even if that's the only way you can feed 1240 00:47:31,430 --> 00:47:29,119 your family you have to stop and 1241 00:47:33,430 --> 00:47:31,440 possibly be poorer for a time until you 1242 00:47:36,390 --> 00:47:33,440 can find something else to do it's to 1243 00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:36,400 cease and desist in violent behavior and 1244 00:47:41,109 --> 00:47:38,480 cease and desist in condoning violent 1245 00:47:42,710 --> 00:47:41,119 behavior and most people won't do that 1246 00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:42,720 because they're too indoctrinated 1247 00:47:45,990 --> 00:47:43,920 they're too 1248 00:47:48,390 --> 00:47:46,000 mind controlled quite frankly they're 1249 00:47:49,510 --> 00:47:48,400 under thrall they're under a hypnotic 1250 00:47:53,430 --> 00:47:49,520 trance 1251 00:47:55,750 --> 00:47:53,440 and uh they won't give up this identity 1252 00:47:58,710 --> 00:47:55,760 that they believe in authority uh you 1253 00:48:00,790 --> 00:47:58,720 know this this is a an actual form of 1254 00:48:03,910 --> 00:48:00,800 personal identity to them 1255 00:48:06,950 --> 00:48:03,920 uh and they're incorrect they're wrong 1256 00:48:08,069 --> 00:48:06,960 it doesn't exist it's a belief system it 1257 00:48:13,190 --> 00:48:08,079 is a 1258 00:48:16,150 --> 00:48:13,200 untrue belief system 1259 00:48:17,750 --> 00:48:16,160 it is the advocation of slavery 1260 00:48:20,549 --> 00:48:17,760 anybody who believes in authority 1261 00:48:22,630 --> 00:48:20,559 necessarily does believe in slavery and 1262 00:48:23,990 --> 00:48:22,640 advocates for slavery and most people 1263 00:48:25,589 --> 00:48:24,000 have never heard it put to them like 1264 00:48:27,270 --> 00:48:25,599 that if you're a believer in the 1265 00:48:29,349 --> 00:48:27,280 authority of human beings you are a 1266 00:48:31,910 --> 00:48:29,359 believer in slavery you believe that 1267 00:48:33,030 --> 00:48:31,920 certain people are slave masters who get 1268 00:48:35,190 --> 00:48:33,040 to command 1269 00:48:37,030 --> 00:48:35,200 and other people are slaves who have a 1270 00:48:39,270 --> 00:48:37,040 moral obligation to obey the slave 1271 00:48:43,030 --> 00:48:39,280 masters that is what the belief in 1272 00:48:45,270 --> 00:48:43,040 authority actually is it's not that way 1273 00:48:46,870 --> 00:48:45,280 because i'm saying that it is that and 1274 00:48:48,870 --> 00:48:46,880 you can get as offended about it as you 1275 00:48:51,589 --> 00:48:48,880 like you can bang your fists on the desk 1276 00:48:53,829 --> 00:48:51,599 you can cry in your beer you you can cry 1277 00:48:57,270 --> 00:48:53,839 in your glass of milk it doesn't make a 1278 00:48:59,829 --> 00:48:57,280 difference it's true to the ends of time 1279 00:49:02,630 --> 00:48:59,839 that is what authority is authority is 1280 00:49:04,390 --> 00:49:02,640 kingship authority is violence authority 1281 00:49:07,270 --> 00:49:04,400 is immorality 1282 00:49:08,549 --> 00:49:07,280 enacted into the world over others it is 1283 00:49:10,790 --> 00:49:08,559 slavery 1284 00:49:13,270 --> 00:49:10,800 and if you advocate for it you are an 1285 00:49:14,790 --> 00:49:13,280 advocate of human 1286 00:49:18,230 --> 00:49:14,800 slavery 1287 00:49:21,510 --> 00:49:18,240 and that really just makes people a 1288 00:49:23,589 --> 00:49:21,520 total piece of trash 1289 00:49:26,069 --> 00:49:23,599 that's what they really are anybody that 1290 00:49:27,750 --> 00:49:26,079 believes in government and authority and 1291 00:49:30,069 --> 00:49:27,760 they haven't heard enough people say it 1292 00:49:32,470 --> 00:49:30,079 to them to take them out of the satanic 1293 00:49:33,750 --> 00:49:32,480 mind trance that they're under they're 1294 00:49:36,710 --> 00:49:33,760 in a cult 1295 00:49:38,790 --> 00:49:36,720 they're in a mind control trance 1296 00:49:40,710 --> 00:49:38,800 that's the truth of the world that's the 1297 00:49:42,390 --> 00:49:40,720 truth of reality not because it's coming 1298 00:49:45,829 --> 00:49:42,400 out of my mouth 1299 00:49:49,990 --> 00:49:45,839 i've learned that truth of reality 1300 00:49:51,030 --> 00:49:50,000 it is that way the end period for all 1301 00:49:52,470 --> 00:49:51,040 time 1302 00:49:54,309 --> 00:49:52,480 and that's what the people in the whole 1303 00:49:57,990 --> 00:49:54,319 spiritual community won't say because 1304 00:49:59,190 --> 00:49:58,000 they're cowards they're cowards you see 1305 00:50:01,750 --> 00:49:59,200 you know 1306 00:50:03,750 --> 00:50:01,760 they don't want to come out and confront 1307 00:50:05,349 --> 00:50:03,760 anybody and rock the boat 1308 00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:05,359 i see the same thing in the ufo 1309 00:50:08,870 --> 00:50:07,200 community they don't want to talk about 1310 00:50:11,270 --> 00:50:08,880 this this makes them highly 1311 00:50:13,430 --> 00:50:11,280 uncomfortable this makes everything 1312 00:50:16,309 --> 00:50:13,440 tense and they don't want that they want 1313 00:50:18,230 --> 00:50:16,319 it to be uh you know a nice pos 1314 00:50:20,309 --> 00:50:18,240 conversation about the possibilities of 1315 00:50:22,790 --> 00:50:20,319 extraterrestrial off-world intelligence 1316 00:50:24,870 --> 00:50:22,800 and exo-politics i know all about it 1317 00:50:27,430 --> 00:50:24,880 i've spent tons and tons and tons and 1318 00:50:29,829 --> 00:50:27,440 tons of time in that community because 1319 00:50:31,589 --> 00:50:29,839 it's a big interest of mine you know i'd 1320 00:50:32,710 --> 00:50:31,599 like to know the truth about it as well 1321 00:50:34,390 --> 00:50:32,720 but if you think you're going to find 1322 00:50:37,670 --> 00:50:34,400 the truth about that in a world of 1323 00:50:40,549 --> 00:50:37,680 slavery you know you're more delusional 1324 00:50:42,230 --> 00:50:40,559 than i even give people credit for okay 1325 00:50:43,670 --> 00:50:42,240 because the rulers of the world aren't 1326 00:50:45,750 --> 00:50:43,680 interested in you learning the the 1327 00:50:47,589 --> 00:50:45,760 secrets of what's outside this planet 1328 00:50:50,630 --> 00:50:47,599 they're keeping you in a prison you're 1329 00:50:52,790 --> 00:50:50,640 imprisoned here you're not allowed off 1330 00:50:56,150 --> 00:50:52,800 world because of what's going on on this 1331 00:50:58,549 --> 00:50:56,160 planet this is a slave plantation that 1332 00:51:01,349 --> 00:50:58,559 you're confined to 1333 00:51:02,710 --> 00:51:01,359 and the people in the ufo community and 1334 00:51:04,309 --> 00:51:02,720 the spiritual community that don't 1335 00:51:07,190 --> 00:51:04,319 understand that i feel horrifically 1336 00:51:09,430 --> 00:51:07,200 sorry for your soul that you're that 1337 00:51:11,510 --> 00:51:09,440 unintelligent still with all the 1338 00:51:13,430 --> 00:51:11,520 information that resides in the world up 1339 00:51:15,270 --> 00:51:13,440 to this point that people are still 1340 00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:15,280 closing their eyes willfully and 1341 00:51:20,390 --> 00:51:17,680 deliberately you're in a bad position 1342 00:51:22,309 --> 00:51:20,400 spiritually you're you're not spiritual 1343 00:51:24,470 --> 00:51:22,319 you're not knowledgeable you're in a 1344 00:51:26,790 --> 00:51:24,480 horrific position to be in if you don't 1345 00:51:28,309 --> 00:51:26,800 understand this by now and i'm one of 1346 00:51:29,750 --> 00:51:28,319 the only people that i know of that will 1347 00:51:31,109 --> 00:51:29,760 come out and just say it out in the open 1348 00:51:32,630 --> 00:51:31,119 like that because 1349 00:51:34,710 --> 00:51:32,640 you know i don't really care what 1350 00:51:36,230 --> 00:51:34,720 anybody might try to do to me you know 1351 00:51:37,510 --> 00:51:36,240 i've been in the room with some of the 1352 00:51:40,069 --> 00:51:37,520 rulers of the world i've been in the 1353 00:51:41,430 --> 00:51:40,079 same room with them you know and you 1354 00:51:43,190 --> 00:51:41,440 know they're not even going to try to 1355 00:51:45,270 --> 00:51:43,200 take a crack at me number one because 1356 00:51:47,030 --> 00:51:45,280 i'm right number one i'm standing in 1357 00:51:48,870 --> 00:51:47,040 spiritual truth 1358 00:51:52,630 --> 00:51:48,880 and that's the most powerful shield of 1359 00:51:54,309 --> 00:51:52,640 defense against anybody worldly or extra 1360 00:51:56,150 --> 00:51:54,319 worldly okay 1361 00:51:57,750 --> 00:51:56,160 standing in the power of truth number 1362 00:51:58,870 --> 00:51:57,760 one creates the ultimate form of 1363 00:52:00,790 --> 00:51:58,880 protection 1364 00:52:05,670 --> 00:52:00,800 and then what's left over i'll handle 1365 00:52:09,270 --> 00:52:07,750 well mark that's quite a lot to unpack 1366 00:52:12,309 --> 00:52:09,280 but i'm glad you got into all the 1367 00:52:14,309 --> 00:52:12,319 details so it saves me saves me time of 1368 00:52:16,309 --> 00:52:14,319 having to ask you the questions well i 1369 00:52:17,510 --> 00:52:16,319 would let me ask you this though are 1370 00:52:21,349 --> 00:52:17,520 there 1371 00:52:24,630 --> 00:52:21,359 the occult and then you have the the 1372 00:52:26,470 --> 00:52:24,640 the luciferians and others um 1373 00:52:28,150 --> 00:52:26,480 the speculation online and it's been 1374 00:52:29,990 --> 00:52:28,160 like that for decades 1375 00:52:33,430 --> 00:52:30,000 is that all these different groups do 1376 00:52:34,470 --> 00:52:33,440 belong to some kind of a cult like 1377 00:52:37,270 --> 00:52:34,480 satan 1378 00:52:39,670 --> 00:52:37,280 like cult 1379 00:52:41,510 --> 00:52:39,680 like the family the the royal family of 1380 00:52:42,710 --> 00:52:41,520 england and the bankers and all these 1381 00:52:44,870 --> 00:52:42,720 different ones 1382 00:52:46,390 --> 00:52:44,880 can you speak maybe a little bit on what 1383 00:52:48,549 --> 00:52:46,400 what you understand 1384 00:52:51,270 --> 00:52:48,559 um i guess to be 1385 00:52:52,549 --> 00:52:51,280 is is that is that true or is this 1386 00:52:54,870 --> 00:52:52,559 something that is just another 1387 00:52:56,710 --> 00:52:54,880 conspiracy online um and the other 1388 00:52:58,069 --> 00:52:56,720 question i wanted to ask and it kind of 1389 00:52:59,829 --> 00:52:58,079 goes back to which you know what you 1390 00:53:01,270 --> 00:52:59,839 were talking about earlier i did always 1391 00:53:03,030 --> 00:53:01,280 find it interesting right we're supposed 1392 00:53:04,150 --> 00:53:03,040 to be this free society and i mentioned 1393 00:53:05,910 --> 00:53:04,160 this before 1394 00:53:07,109 --> 00:53:05,920 but yet somehow we're dealing with 1395 00:53:08,549 --> 00:53:07,119 mandates 1396 00:53:09,990 --> 00:53:08,559 right right and we're dealing with all 1397 00:53:11,589 --> 00:53:10,000 these things that communists pass i'm 1398 00:53:13,750 --> 00:53:11,599 like well hold on a minute you know i 1399 00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:13,760 thought it's a free society why are you 1400 00:53:18,230 --> 00:53:15,680 mandating you know and it's like why are 1401 00:53:19,990 --> 00:53:18,240 we taking taking this from this playbook 1402 00:53:21,670 --> 00:53:20,000 of the communists to deal with some 1403 00:53:24,069 --> 00:53:21,680 things like why don't we deal with it as 1404 00:53:26,390 --> 00:53:24,079 these free individual you know human 1405 00:53:28,230 --> 00:53:26,400 beings on the planet and act according 1406 00:53:30,230 --> 00:53:28,240 and you know to that instead of just 1407 00:53:31,910 --> 00:53:30,240 going nope i tell you what to do and you 1408 00:53:33,829 --> 00:53:31,920 do it 1409 00:53:36,790 --> 00:53:33,839 yes so the first part of the question 1410 00:53:39,670 --> 00:53:36,800 regarding uh groups of occultists and or 1411 00:53:41,750 --> 00:53:39,680 organizations that is not conspiracy 1412 00:53:43,349 --> 00:53:41,760 theory a lot of people try to twist and 1413 00:53:46,390 --> 00:53:43,359 turn it into that people who don't know 1414 00:53:49,109 --> 00:53:46,400 a lot about it and uh can't speak to 1415 00:53:53,230 --> 00:53:49,119 like the correct organizations 1416 00:53:54,870 --> 00:53:53,240 will uh you know basically make it look 1417 00:53:57,750 --> 00:53:54,880 oversimplified 1418 00:53:59,589 --> 00:53:57,760 they'll use the term illuminati a lot i 1419 00:54:02,069 --> 00:53:59,599 i personally hate that term because it 1420 00:54:03,829 --> 00:54:02,079 means the enlightened ones a lot of 1421 00:54:06,309 --> 00:54:03,839 people don't even know that the place 1422 00:54:09,270 --> 00:54:06,319 where that term came from was the occult 1423 00:54:11,750 --> 00:54:09,280 organization uh in the 1700s known as 1424 00:54:14,710 --> 00:54:11,760 the bavarian illuminati out of bavaria 1425 00:54:16,390 --> 00:54:14,720 germany uh and it had a lot of deep 1426 00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:16,400 connections to the beginnings of 1427 00:54:20,950 --> 00:54:18,240 organized communism which i'm going to 1428 00:54:23,589 --> 00:54:20,960 speak to in a upcoming presentation 1429 00:54:25,270 --> 00:54:23,599 called the dark occult origins of nazism 1430 00:54:27,109 --> 00:54:25,280 and communism 1431 00:54:29,670 --> 00:54:27,119 um you know and uh 1432 00:54:31,829 --> 00:54:29,680 the the the term illuminati i i don't 1433 00:54:33,829 --> 00:54:31,839 like it applied to this satanic uh you 1434 00:54:35,349 --> 00:54:33,839 know network because they're not 1435 00:54:36,870 --> 00:54:35,359 enlightened they're not spiritually 1436 00:54:38,390 --> 00:54:36,880 enlightened they're the exact opposite 1437 00:54:39,750 --> 00:54:38,400 of spiritually enlightened 1438 00:54:41,430 --> 00:54:39,760 uh you know 1439 00:54:43,430 --> 00:54:41,440 they may be knowledgeable but that 1440 00:54:44,789 --> 00:54:43,440 doesn't make them enlightened you know 1441 00:54:47,030 --> 00:54:44,799 they're knowledgeable and they're using 1442 00:54:48,950 --> 00:54:47,040 that knowledge as a weapon over other 1443 00:54:51,910 --> 00:54:48,960 people that doesn't make you enlightened 1444 00:54:53,109 --> 00:54:51,920 that makes you a control freak dominator 1445 00:54:55,109 --> 00:54:53,119 psychopath 1446 00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:55,119 which isn't enlightened at all 1447 00:54:58,230 --> 00:54:56,160 um so 1448 00:55:00,470 --> 00:54:58,240 uh believe it or not the term that the 1449 00:55:03,030 --> 00:55:00,480 original bavarian illuminati occultists 1450 00:55:04,470 --> 00:55:03,040 used for themselves was even more 1451 00:55:06,630 --> 00:55:04,480 egotistical 1452 00:55:08,390 --> 00:55:06,640 which shows you their satanic mindset 1453 00:55:10,390 --> 00:55:08,400 they originally referred to themselves 1454 00:55:13,349 --> 00:55:10,400 as the perfectabilis 1455 00:55:15,430 --> 00:55:13,359 which means in latin the perfect ones i 1456 00:55:18,069 --> 00:55:15,440 mean imagine somebody thinking they're 1457 00:55:20,870 --> 00:55:18,079 completely perfected there's no room for 1458 00:55:24,069 --> 00:55:20,880 improvement i'm perfection embodied in a 1459 00:55:26,069 --> 00:55:24,079 human being i mean think about the ego 1460 00:55:28,630 --> 00:55:26,079 on them that they would call themselves 1461 00:55:30,150 --> 00:55:28,640 the perfectabilis uh it doesn't have the 1462 00:55:32,230 --> 00:55:30,160 it doesn't quite roll off the tongue 1463 00:55:34,630 --> 00:55:32,240 like illuminati though so they change 1464 00:55:36,470 --> 00:55:34,640 their name after several years 1465 00:55:39,270 --> 00:55:36,480 but the original grand master of that 1466 00:55:40,870 --> 00:55:39,280 group was uh adam weishaupt and um he 1467 00:55:43,190 --> 00:55:40,880 considered himself a radical 1468 00:55:45,589 --> 00:55:43,200 revolutionary that wanted to transform 1469 00:55:47,510 --> 00:55:45,599 society in a way that was going to take 1470 00:55:49,750 --> 00:55:47,520 it beyond kingship and that form of 1471 00:55:52,870 --> 00:55:49,760 authority and uh put authority in the 1472 00:55:54,470 --> 00:55:52,880 hands of a secret hidden ruling class 1473 00:55:55,670 --> 00:55:54,480 that would rule behind the scenes and 1474 00:55:58,950 --> 00:55:55,680 become god 1475 00:56:00,470 --> 00:55:58,960 uh and he turned his organization over 1476 00:56:02,950 --> 00:56:00,480 uh to um 1477 00:56:07,710 --> 00:56:02,960 upon you know nearing his death to an 1478 00:56:09,270 --> 00:56:07,720 italian uh uh basically a um total total 1479 00:56:10,789 --> 00:56:09,280 totalitarianist 1480 00:56:14,230 --> 00:56:10,799 named um 1481 00:56:15,910 --> 00:56:14,240 uh giuseppe mazzini uh mazzini was uh 1482 00:56:20,230 --> 00:56:15,920 someone who ran a group called young 1483 00:56:22,309 --> 00:56:20,240 italy uh in his uh earlier uh youth and 1484 00:56:25,190 --> 00:56:22,319 uh he patterned that organization is 1485 00:56:27,589 --> 00:56:25,200 what ultimately the uh la cosa nostra 1486 00:56:29,270 --> 00:56:27,599 mafia of italy eventually patterned 1487 00:56:31,270 --> 00:56:29,280 themselves after 1488 00:56:33,589 --> 00:56:31,280 and a lot of people don't know he was 1489 00:56:36,470 --> 00:56:33,599 pretty much running mates with uh you 1490 00:56:40,950 --> 00:56:36,480 know running buddies with another 1491 00:56:42,470 --> 00:56:40,960 um pre-communist uh named carl schapper 1492 00:56:45,750 --> 00:56:42,480 schapper 1493 00:56:47,670 --> 00:56:45,760 was you know one of the the best friends 1494 00:56:49,430 --> 00:56:47,680 of mizzini 1495 00:56:50,710 --> 00:56:49,440 and patterned an organization called 1496 00:56:53,270 --> 00:56:50,720 young germany 1497 00:56:54,630 --> 00:56:53,280 off of um mazzini's work 1498 00:56:55,430 --> 00:56:54,640 in italy 1499 00:56:57,670 --> 00:56:55,440 and 1500 00:56:58,549 --> 00:56:57,680 uh he was one of the people who founded 1501 00:57:00,950 --> 00:56:58,559 the 1502 00:57:03,270 --> 00:57:00,960 communist league which eventually gave 1503 00:57:05,670 --> 00:57:03,280 rise to marx angles and the communist 1504 00:57:07,670 --> 00:57:05,680 manifesto a direct connection to the 1505 00:57:10,390 --> 00:57:07,680 dark occult and the bavarian illuminati 1506 00:57:11,670 --> 00:57:10,400 which most people have no idea about 1507 00:57:14,069 --> 00:57:11,680 i'm going to trace a lot of these 1508 00:57:15,270 --> 00:57:14,079 origins in my upcoming presentation it's 1509 00:57:17,430 --> 00:57:15,280 probably going to be 1510 00:57:18,470 --> 00:57:17,440 minimum six hour presentation maybe 1511 00:57:20,789 --> 00:57:18,480 longer 1512 00:57:22,710 --> 00:57:20,799 in which i go into all the personalities 1513 00:57:24,789 --> 00:57:22,720 and groups that led the formation of 1514 00:57:26,950 --> 00:57:24,799 communism one of them was the tavistock 1515 00:57:30,230 --> 00:57:26,960 institute of human relations 1516 00:57:32,150 --> 00:57:30,240 a think tank run out of london england 1517 00:57:34,069 --> 00:57:32,160 directly connected with chatham house 1518 00:57:35,990 --> 00:57:34,079 and wellington house who are of course 1519 00:57:39,349 --> 00:57:36,000 directly connected with the crown 1520 00:57:40,630 --> 00:57:39,359 obviously mi5 etc 1521 00:57:42,630 --> 00:57:40,640 and then you could look at cross 1522 00:57:44,470 --> 00:57:42,640 connections between organizations like 1523 00:57:45,589 --> 00:57:44,480 the royal institute for international 1524 00:57:49,190 --> 00:57:45,599 affairs 1525 00:57:50,150 --> 00:57:49,200 their um basic uh pattern or not pattern 1526 00:57:51,910 --> 00:57:50,160 but um 1527 00:57:53,990 --> 00:57:51,920 the organization that is patterned after 1528 00:57:56,390 --> 00:57:54,000 them and basically uh does the same 1529 00:57:57,990 --> 00:57:56,400 thing in the united states which is um 1530 00:58:02,150 --> 00:57:58,000 uh the um 1531 00:58:04,470 --> 00:58:02,160 uh council uh on the council uh for um 1532 00:58:06,150 --> 00:58:04,480 um i wanna say council for national 1533 00:58:08,390 --> 00:58:06,160 policy it's the other one the council on 1534 00:58:10,309 --> 00:58:08,400 um foreign relations the council on 1535 00:58:13,910 --> 00:58:10,319 foreign relations 1536 00:58:15,910 --> 00:58:13,920 cfr and um you know obviously they have 1537 00:58:18,390 --> 00:58:15,920 high connections and ties with other 1538 00:58:20,789 --> 00:58:18,400 think tanks like the bilderberg group 1539 00:58:23,990 --> 00:58:22,950 another big one is the trilateral 1540 00:58:26,069 --> 00:58:24,000 commission 1541 00:58:28,710 --> 00:58:26,079 so if you you know trace these think 1542 00:58:30,549 --> 00:58:28,720 tanks and their origins uh you will come 1543 00:58:32,950 --> 00:58:30,559 to dark occultists and dark occult 1544 00:58:35,030 --> 00:58:32,960 organizations uh they absolutely form 1545 00:58:37,030 --> 00:58:35,040 these political groups these political 1546 00:58:39,670 --> 00:58:37,040 think tanks that is how they wield 1547 00:58:42,789 --> 00:58:39,680 earthly power uh and these organizations 1548 00:58:44,630 --> 00:58:42,799 are supranational uh they sit above uh 1549 00:58:47,190 --> 00:58:44,640 enshrined governments and basically call 1550 00:58:49,270 --> 00:58:47,200 the shots uh inside governments they're 1551 00:58:51,270 --> 00:58:49,280 they're the policy centers for 1552 00:58:53,829 --> 00:58:51,280 government organizations 1553 00:58:55,670 --> 00:58:53,839 um you know so you can go on and on and 1554 00:58:57,190 --> 00:58:55,680 trace other think tanks and 1555 00:58:58,549 --> 00:58:57,200 organizations and 1556 00:59:00,309 --> 00:58:58,559 you will see that they all have 1557 00:59:02,630 --> 00:59:00,319 connections with dark occultists and 1558 00:59:04,470 --> 00:59:02,640 dark occult organizations as well 1559 00:59:07,030 --> 00:59:04,480 without a doubt satanists own and 1560 00:59:09,349 --> 00:59:07,040 control those organizations uh and 1561 00:59:11,990 --> 00:59:09,359 again i delineate between satanists and 1562 00:59:13,829 --> 00:59:12,000 dark luciferians uh dark luciferians i 1563 00:59:15,990 --> 00:59:13,839 would say are even higher level in the 1564 00:59:18,549 --> 00:59:16,000 satanic hierarchy or in the dark occult 1565 00:59:20,549 --> 00:59:18,559 hierarchy and they do understand natural 1566 00:59:22,309 --> 00:59:20,559 law and they do know that there's a 1567 00:59:23,829 --> 00:59:22,319 creator of the universe that put natural 1568 00:59:26,390 --> 00:59:23,839 law into effect 1569 00:59:28,630 --> 00:59:26,400 and they don't want to obey that uh 1570 00:59:30,950 --> 00:59:28,640 force in nature that they don't want to 1571 00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:30,960 they want to rule in hell rather than 1572 00:59:34,870 --> 00:59:32,400 serve in heaven 1573 00:59:36,630 --> 00:59:34,880 they would rather wall the earth off 1574 00:59:38,870 --> 00:59:36,640 from the rest of the entire manifest 1575 00:59:41,270 --> 00:59:38,880 universe and rule it as a prison as long 1576 00:59:43,270 --> 00:59:41,280 as they could be the rulers 1577 00:59:45,109 --> 00:59:43,280 that's how egotistical they are 1578 00:59:47,270 --> 00:59:45,119 they know that natural law exists and 1579 00:59:49,670 --> 00:59:47,280 they look at it as a 1580 00:59:51,670 --> 00:59:49,680 confining set of restraints against them 1581 00:59:52,710 --> 00:59:51,680 being able to do whatever they want and 1582 00:59:53,750 --> 00:59:52,720 therefore 1583 00:59:55,349 --> 00:59:53,760 they 1584 00:59:57,190 --> 00:59:55,359 have rejected it and tried to do 1585 00:59:59,349 --> 00:59:57,200 everything to insulate themselves from 1586 01:00:00,870 --> 00:59:59,359 it and how they do that is they make 1587 01:00:02,630 --> 01:00:00,880 other people do their dirty work they 1588 01:00:05,109 --> 01:00:02,640 make other people into their order 1589 01:00:07,430 --> 01:00:05,119 followers the order follower class is 1590 01:00:10,630 --> 01:00:07,440 who's going to receive the brunt of the 1591 01:00:12,870 --> 01:00:10,640 um you know karmic debt and karmic 1592 01:00:14,870 --> 01:00:12,880 consequences not the people who call the 1593 01:00:16,870 --> 01:00:14,880 shots you know they're insulating 1594 01:00:18,549 --> 01:00:16,880 themselves from that karmic debt by 1595 01:00:20,630 --> 01:00:18,559 saying we're not the ones who are 1596 01:00:22,230 --> 01:00:20,640 actually performing the violent behavior 1597 01:00:23,670 --> 01:00:22,240 we're just calling for the violent 1598 01:00:26,150 --> 01:00:23,680 behavior we're telling people this is 1599 01:00:28,630 --> 01:00:26,160 your job to do this violence for us and 1600 01:00:31,670 --> 01:00:28,640 then who goes out and does it the police 1601 01:00:33,589 --> 01:00:31,680 the military the national guard etc all 1602 01:00:36,309 --> 01:00:33,599 the other adjunct organizations and 1603 01:00:38,789 --> 01:00:36,319 paramilitary organizations those are the 1604 01:00:42,309 --> 01:00:38,799 people who are taking the direct karmic 1605 01:00:43,829 --> 01:00:42,319 consequences down upon their actual soul 1606 01:00:45,829 --> 01:00:43,839 whether they believe they have one or 1607 01:00:47,910 --> 01:00:45,839 not when they die they'll find out 1608 01:00:49,589 --> 01:00:47,920 that's one thing that i've been talking 1609 01:00:52,390 --> 01:00:49,599 with people about and it actually almost 1610 01:00:54,870 --> 01:00:52,400 brings me a slight modicum of pleasure 1611 01:00:57,910 --> 01:00:54,880 to understand that everyone will die one 1612 01:00:59,589 --> 01:00:57,920 day and everyone will be held account 1613 01:01:02,309 --> 01:00:59,599 for what they did or did not do in this 1614 01:01:04,470 --> 01:01:02,319 realm because what we do here has 1615 01:01:05,589 --> 01:01:04,480 repercussions and what we do here 1616 01:01:08,630 --> 01:01:05,599 matters 1617 01:01:11,829 --> 01:01:08,640 and when we face our ultimate 1618 01:01:12,630 --> 01:01:11,839 uh one to one passing from this world 1619 01:01:14,230 --> 01:01:12,640 this 1620 01:01:15,910 --> 01:01:14,240 thing that we're going to do ourselves 1621 01:01:17,190 --> 01:01:15,920 just like we came into this world alone 1622 01:01:18,230 --> 01:01:17,200 we're going to leave this world by 1623 01:01:19,829 --> 01:01:18,240 ourselves 1624 01:01:22,390 --> 01:01:19,839 uh one at a time 1625 01:01:24,549 --> 01:01:22,400 and we will find out that there are 1626 01:01:26,870 --> 01:01:24,559 repercussions and consequences the the 1627 01:01:29,349 --> 01:01:26,880 game here on earth and it's not really a 1628 01:01:31,589 --> 01:01:29,359 quote game i'm just using that term the 1629 01:01:35,109 --> 01:01:31,599 the whole plan here on earth if you will 1630 01:01:38,069 --> 01:01:35,119 is truth and consequences 1631 01:01:41,309 --> 01:01:38,079 did we learn the truth did we serve the 1632 01:01:44,630 --> 01:01:41,319 truth did we speak the truth to others 1633 01:01:46,390 --> 01:01:44,640 unapologetically and fearlessly okay did 1634 01:01:48,870 --> 01:01:46,400 we try to live our lives in harmony in 1635 01:01:50,950 --> 01:01:48,880 accordance and in alignment with truth 1636 01:01:52,789 --> 01:01:50,960 right or did we not do any of those 1637 01:01:54,470 --> 01:01:52,799 things and there will be consequences 1638 01:01:56,150 --> 01:01:54,480 manifested either way 1639 01:01:58,309 --> 01:01:56,160 some will manifest here on the earth 1640 01:02:00,789 --> 01:01:58,319 plane some will manifest wherever our 1641 01:02:02,069 --> 01:02:00,799 consciousness goes after this plane of 1642 01:02:04,789 --> 01:02:02,079 existence 1643 01:02:06,390 --> 01:02:04,799 and there will be people in shock and 1644 01:02:08,710 --> 01:02:06,400 horror 1645 01:02:11,109 --> 01:02:08,720 and i get a nice big grin on my face 1646 01:02:13,589 --> 01:02:11,119 when i think about that and not not that 1647 01:02:16,789 --> 01:02:13,599 not their shock and horror but that we 1648 01:02:18,870 --> 01:02:16,799 all will individually be held to account 1649 01:02:20,390 --> 01:02:18,880 and to consequence for what we have or 1650 01:02:22,870 --> 01:02:20,400 have not done here 1651 01:02:26,710 --> 01:02:22,880 that puts a big smile on my face 1652 01:02:29,510 --> 01:02:26,720 one because that's cosmic justice 1653 01:02:31,990 --> 01:02:29,520 two because i know i'm okay 1654 01:02:34,150 --> 01:02:32,000 i know i did what was required of me i 1655 01:02:36,150 --> 01:02:34,160 know i made the appropriate and required 1656 01:02:39,270 --> 01:02:36,160 sacrifices in my personal 1657 01:02:40,950 --> 01:02:39,280 uh selfish aspects of my life and put 1658 01:02:42,710 --> 01:02:40,960 those things on hold and on the back 1659 01:02:44,390 --> 01:02:42,720 burner to do what was right in the times 1660 01:02:46,390 --> 01:02:44,400 that we are living in and i have no 1661 01:02:49,430 --> 01:02:46,400 doubt about that 1662 01:02:51,750 --> 01:02:49,440 so once again that is my 1663 01:02:53,109 --> 01:02:51,760 spiritual shielding and protection 1664 01:02:55,589 --> 01:02:53,119 that's why i don't worry what's going to 1665 01:02:58,789 --> 01:02:55,599 happen to me in the physical or in the 1666 01:03:00,829 --> 01:02:58,799 hereafter not worried a bit because i 1667 01:03:05,430 --> 01:03:00,839 know i did what was right and what was 1668 01:03:10,069 --> 01:03:07,670 you know mark um um 1669 01:03:11,349 --> 01:03:10,079 you know i'm glad uh you're covering all 1670 01:03:13,190 --> 01:03:11,359 these different subjects and talking 1671 01:03:15,670 --> 01:03:13,200 about these different things you know 1672 01:03:17,589 --> 01:03:15,680 because i've often also mentioned to 1673 01:03:20,309 --> 01:03:17,599 people that you'll log into your for hub 1674 01:03:21,910 --> 01:03:20,319 to watch and i have some open lines so 1675 01:03:23,910 --> 01:03:21,920 an occasion i would share some personal 1676 01:03:25,670 --> 01:03:23,920 experiences and a point of view about 1677 01:03:27,349 --> 01:03:25,680 certain things and i said i can 1678 01:03:29,910 --> 01:03:27,359 understand that a lot of people are 1679 01:03:31,670 --> 01:03:29,920 always interested in ufos and they want 1680 01:03:33,270 --> 01:03:31,680 more about ufos tell us more about these 1681 01:03:36,069 --> 01:03:33,280 ships what's going on all this other 1682 01:03:37,109 --> 01:03:36,079 stuff i said but the more important and 1683 01:03:39,430 --> 01:03:37,119 and 1684 01:03:42,630 --> 01:03:39,440 pertinent information right now is your 1685 01:03:44,710 --> 01:03:42,640 well-being in in this moment and so if 1686 01:03:46,710 --> 01:03:44,720 you're not taking care of that you know 1687 01:03:48,710 --> 01:03:46,720 you can pretty much also be worried you 1688 01:03:50,950 --> 01:03:48,720 know about the you know wondering about 1689 01:03:52,950 --> 01:03:50,960 ufos and their ships behind bars when 1690 01:03:54,870 --> 01:03:52,960 you're captured you know and right and 1691 01:03:56,309 --> 01:03:54,880 one of those that's the advanced class 1692 01:03:59,589 --> 01:03:56,319 folks you think you're going to skip 1693 01:04:02,470 --> 01:03:59,599 kindergarten and go to you know uh you 1694 01:04:04,069 --> 01:04:02,480 know uh college-level physics you know 1695 01:04:06,069 --> 01:04:04,079 they're they're they're looking at us 1696 01:04:08,470 --> 01:04:06,079 like you got to solve your own problems 1697 01:04:11,109 --> 01:04:08,480 down there you got and you got lots of 1698 01:04:13,829 --> 01:04:11,119 them to work on and solve 1699 01:04:14,630 --> 01:04:13,839 you think that beings of that intellect 1700 01:04:19,670 --> 01:04:14,640 and 1701 01:04:21,510 --> 01:04:19,680 really interested in pulling us up by 1702 01:04:23,430 --> 01:04:21,520 our own bootstraps instead of allowing 1703 01:04:24,950 --> 01:04:23,440 us to do it for ourselves and learning 1704 01:04:27,029 --> 01:04:24,960 that would be like trying to take a 1705 01:04:29,109 --> 01:04:27,039 kindergarten child and put them in an ap 1706 01:04:31,990 --> 01:04:29,119 physics class to think about how well 1707 01:04:33,910 --> 01:04:32,000 they do outside of that that you know 1708 01:04:35,270 --> 01:04:33,920 low level kindergarten class they 1709 01:04:37,190 --> 01:04:35,280 wouldn't do well 1710 01:04:39,029 --> 01:04:37,200 skipping all those grades and 1711 01:04:40,309 --> 01:04:39,039 unfortunately they're just popping in 1712 01:04:42,069 --> 01:04:40,319 taking a look have they learned their 1713 01:04:43,990 --> 01:04:42,079 lessons yet are they ready for the next 1714 01:04:45,829 --> 01:04:44,000 lesson and then unfortunately folks the 1715 01:04:48,150 --> 01:04:45,839 answer is no you think you're going to 1716 01:04:49,990 --> 01:04:48,160 commune and with them and get all kinds 1717 01:04:51,829 --> 01:04:50,000 of secrets and get get you know pulled 1718 01:04:53,190 --> 01:04:51,839 up to an advanced class the universe 1719 01:04:55,430 --> 01:04:53,200 doesn't work like that that's the 1720 01:04:56,630 --> 01:04:55,440 mindset of the child it's the mindset of 1721 01:04:59,270 --> 01:04:56,640 a child that doesn't want to pass 1722 01:05:01,349 --> 01:04:59,280 kindergarten and you know wants to go to 1723 01:05:03,349 --> 01:05:01,359 the advanced ap physics class where 1724 01:05:04,789 --> 01:05:03,359 they're gonna they're gonna get a zero 1725 01:05:06,710 --> 01:05:04,799 there anyway because they didn't learn 1726 01:05:08,549 --> 01:05:06,720 their lessons in kindergarten and it's 1727 01:05:10,069 --> 01:05:08,559 sad that i even have to 1728 01:05:12,150 --> 01:05:10,079 explain it and put it like that and i 1729 01:05:14,630 --> 01:05:12,160 know it sounds condescending but that's 1730 01:05:16,309 --> 01:05:14,640 that's exactly really how it works uh 1731 01:05:17,990 --> 01:05:16,319 these beings are just you know like it's 1732 01:05:19,190 --> 01:05:18,000 almost like they're studying like oh my 1733 01:05:21,349 --> 01:05:19,200 god look at this is what a 1734 01:05:22,870 --> 01:05:21,359 civilization's that that is completely 1735 01:05:24,150 --> 01:05:22,880 and utterly annihilating itself and 1736 01:05:27,109 --> 01:05:24,160 destroying itself and staying 1737 01:05:28,870 --> 01:05:27,119 spiritually stagnant looks like and it's 1738 01:05:30,789 --> 01:05:28,880 like it's like a glimpse for them what 1739 01:05:32,549 --> 01:05:30,799 not to do that's pretty much what the 1740 01:05:34,230 --> 01:05:32,559 earth is to these beings 1741 01:05:36,470 --> 01:05:34,240 right well 1742 01:05:38,470 --> 01:05:36,480 what i was going to say is 1743 01:05:39,349 --> 01:05:38,480 you and i we haven't talked since but 1744 01:05:40,950 --> 01:05:39,359 you know 1745 01:05:42,549 --> 01:05:40,960 one of the reasons why i started this 1746 01:05:45,029 --> 01:05:42,559 channel is because of my own personal 1747 01:05:46,950 --> 01:05:45,039 experiences and this was something i've 1748 01:05:48,710 --> 01:05:46,960 often talked about which was really 1749 01:05:50,470 --> 01:05:48,720 interesting but people always want to 1750 01:05:52,789 --> 01:05:50,480 know all these different 1751 01:05:54,230 --> 01:05:52,799 you know extra thresholds you know ships 1752 01:05:56,390 --> 01:05:54,240 and what they're doing and all sort of 1753 01:05:59,109 --> 01:05:56,400 stuff but something that just 1754 01:06:01,270 --> 01:05:59,119 dumbfounded me was my interactions 1755 01:06:03,549 --> 01:06:01,280 were always 1756 01:06:05,349 --> 01:06:03,559 basically reflected back to me about 1757 01:06:08,150 --> 01:06:05,359 self-responsibility 1758 01:06:10,150 --> 01:06:08,160 to be responsible about that you create 1759 01:06:12,390 --> 01:06:10,160 your reality and and how you look at 1760 01:06:14,630 --> 01:06:12,400 certain things is that what will then 1761 01:06:17,190 --> 01:06:14,640 dictate how you move on and a lot of 1762 01:06:19,750 --> 01:06:17,200 that was the the majority of these 1763 01:06:21,990 --> 01:06:19,760 experiences you know and what was you 1764 01:06:23,349 --> 01:06:22,000 know so when people talk to me about the 1765 01:06:24,950 --> 01:06:23,359 you know when i start talking about 1766 01:06:27,349 --> 01:06:24,960 these things they always think it's like 1767 01:06:28,470 --> 01:06:27,359 some kind of um like i'm okay that's 1768 01:06:29,750 --> 01:06:28,480 great but why are you talking about 1769 01:06:32,069 --> 01:06:29,760 psychology stuff tell me about the 1770 01:06:33,109 --> 01:06:32,079 aliens i was like yeah there's an aspect 1771 01:06:35,349 --> 01:06:33,119 of that but 1772 01:06:38,150 --> 01:06:35,359 the ones that truly want to interact on 1773 01:06:40,230 --> 01:06:38,160 an equal level they want you to become 1774 01:06:42,309 --> 01:06:40,240 the the best version of yourself that 1775 01:06:45,029 --> 01:06:42,319 you can be before you can move on 1776 01:06:47,190 --> 01:06:45,039 anywhere else you know and so that's why 1777 01:06:48,950 --> 01:06:47,200 early in ufo hub history i mean it's 1778 01:06:50,710 --> 01:06:48,960 been almost eight years now i always 1779 01:06:52,309 --> 01:06:50,720 started including other people such as 1780 01:06:54,710 --> 01:06:52,319 yourself and others they talk about 1781 01:06:56,950 --> 01:06:54,720 these you know other aspects other to 1782 01:06:58,630 --> 01:06:56,960 just your first ufo ship ships you know 1783 01:07:00,549 --> 01:06:58,640 tell us this tell us that you know 1784 01:07:02,390 --> 01:07:00,559 because it is it is important you know 1785 01:07:04,710 --> 01:07:02,400 the relationships you know like the 1786 01:07:06,069 --> 01:07:04,720 actually more i think i the way you laid 1787 01:07:08,390 --> 01:07:06,079 it out there i couldn't have done any 1788 01:07:11,270 --> 01:07:08,400 better myself that is what uh some of 1789 01:07:13,510 --> 01:07:11,280 these uh uh higher level or extra 1790 01:07:15,750 --> 01:07:13,520 dimensional entities want they want us 1791 01:07:17,430 --> 01:07:15,760 to deal with our own problems they want 1792 01:07:19,990 --> 01:07:17,440 us to learn about ourselves and our own 1793 01:07:21,589 --> 01:07:20,000 psychology our own motivations why we're 1794 01:07:23,750 --> 01:07:21,599 doing the things we're doing why we're 1795 01:07:25,589 --> 01:07:23,760 allowing the things that we're allowing 1796 01:07:27,829 --> 01:07:25,599 and they want us to learn and grow and 1797 01:07:29,589 --> 01:07:27,839 become a better version of ourselves 1798 01:07:31,829 --> 01:07:29,599 that's the only way we're going to be 1799 01:07:34,390 --> 01:07:31,839 prepared to go out and meet our cosmic 1800 01:07:37,430 --> 01:07:34,400 brethren our cosmic brothers and sisters 1801 01:07:39,190 --> 01:07:37,440 out in in the rest of creation 1802 01:07:40,789 --> 01:07:39,200 as of right now i don't think the rest 1803 01:07:43,190 --> 01:07:40,799 of the universe would pretty much 1804 01:07:45,750 --> 01:07:43,200 welcome us on their block with at the 1805 01:07:48,150 --> 01:07:45,760 level of uh consciousness that we are at 1806 01:07:50,870 --> 01:07:48,160 collectively as a species unfortunately 1807 01:07:52,150 --> 01:07:50,880 so i i 100 concur with what you just 1808 01:07:54,470 --> 01:07:52,160 laid out that that's what this is 1809 01:07:56,549 --> 01:07:54,480 ultimately all about 1810 01:07:57,829 --> 01:07:56,559 yeah because in every relationship at 1811 01:07:59,670 --> 01:07:57,839 the end of the day it's all about 1812 01:08:01,910 --> 01:07:59,680 baggage you know 1813 01:08:04,150 --> 01:08:01,920 and uh the least uh that you bring with 1814 01:08:07,109 --> 01:08:04,160 you the better you know uh so anyway 1815 01:08:08,710 --> 01:08:07,119 what i wanted to um in about 1816 01:08:10,230 --> 01:08:08,720 roughly about 20 minutes i'm just 1817 01:08:13,349 --> 01:08:10,240 letting know everyone else watching 1818 01:08:15,349 --> 01:08:13,359 we're going to go into q a and so you 1819 01:08:18,309 --> 01:08:15,359 can talk to mark directly by downloading 1820 01:08:19,990 --> 01:08:18,319 a telegram app and 1821 01:08:22,789 --> 01:08:20,000 basically just signing up there you'll 1822 01:08:25,829 --> 01:08:22,799 see there's a i'm simo simultaneously 1823 01:08:28,229 --> 01:08:25,839 also casting on telegram voice only for 1824 01:08:30,229 --> 01:08:28,239 those of you that are listening there so 1825 01:08:32,870 --> 01:08:30,239 um i can i meet you and you can talk to 1826 01:08:35,110 --> 01:08:32,880 mark or if you're in the chat simply put 1827 01:08:37,269 --> 01:08:35,120 the three asterisks there and ask a 1828 01:08:39,910 --> 01:08:37,279 question so it'll easily pop out at me 1829 01:08:41,749 --> 01:08:39,920 and i can relate tomorrow and um but 1830 01:08:44,149 --> 01:08:41,759 what i the the next question i have for 1831 01:08:46,630 --> 01:08:44,159 you mark is that um 1832 01:08:50,070 --> 01:08:46,640 so one of the the very basic things that 1833 01:08:53,430 --> 01:08:50,080 it's so silly how simple it is is to 1834 01:08:55,189 --> 01:08:53,440 take a step forward right and into 1835 01:08:57,990 --> 01:08:55,199 anything that you say you want to do 1836 01:08:59,990 --> 01:08:58,000 that is like the the the very basic that 1837 01:09:02,470 --> 01:09:00,000 you can simply kind of break things down 1838 01:09:04,149 --> 01:09:02,480 to tell somebody and so people always 1839 01:09:05,590 --> 01:09:04,159 you know expecting and we talked a lot 1840 01:09:07,669 --> 01:09:05,600 about this a little bit before the show 1841 01:09:09,590 --> 01:09:07,679 started um you know 1842 01:09:11,829 --> 01:09:09,600 such as yourself and myself and others 1843 01:09:13,669 --> 01:09:11,839 that are very close to me they're very 1844 01:09:15,510 --> 01:09:13,679 self-driven like they don't need people 1845 01:09:17,669 --> 01:09:15,520 telling them what to do they just know 1846 01:09:19,749 --> 01:09:17,679 this is wrong i got to fix it or this is 1847 01:09:22,149 --> 01:09:19,759 right awesome let me encourage it right 1848 01:09:25,269 --> 01:09:22,159 and so but not everyone always thinks in 1849 01:09:26,709 --> 01:09:25,279 those terms and so um would can you add 1850 01:09:28,390 --> 01:09:26,719 a little bit more to that or do you 1851 01:09:30,470 --> 01:09:28,400 think absolutely there's there's even 1852 01:09:32,390 --> 01:09:30,480 more of a simpler step to to them just 1853 01:09:34,149 --> 01:09:32,400 say just start taking a first step on 1854 01:09:35,349 --> 01:09:34,159 your own and just go to see where it 1855 01:09:36,709 --> 01:09:35,359 takes you 1856 01:09:38,229 --> 01:09:36,719 i i love that you brought up this 1857 01:09:40,550 --> 01:09:38,239 question because i talk about this all 1858 01:09:43,269 --> 01:09:40,560 the time and i was telling you in the 1859 01:09:45,430 --> 01:09:43,279 pre uh interview session that i'm 1860 01:09:47,349 --> 01:09:45,440 actually giving a seminar to try to help 1861 01:09:49,189 --> 01:09:47,359 people develop skill sets like that 1862 01:09:50,070 --> 01:09:49,199 particularly when it comes to speaking 1863 01:09:52,229 --> 01:09:50,080 out 1864 01:09:54,709 --> 01:09:52,239 through modern forms of technology and 1865 01:09:56,229 --> 01:09:54,719 publishing communication and publishing 1866 01:09:58,709 --> 01:09:56,239 on the internet 1867 01:10:00,709 --> 01:09:58,719 and so yes that's the step that we need 1868 01:10:03,510 --> 01:10:00,719 to take as a species is to stop looking 1869 01:10:05,189 --> 01:10:03,520 for a leader there is no waiting for 1870 01:10:07,590 --> 01:10:05,199 orders from headquarters in this 1871 01:10:09,590 --> 01:10:07,600 spiritual war you want to know why there 1872 01:10:11,590 --> 01:10:09,600 are no generals you know there are no 1873 01:10:14,709 --> 01:10:11,600 lieutenants there are no you know people 1874 01:10:16,550 --> 01:10:14,719 who are in quote charge it's everybody 1875 01:10:17,990 --> 01:10:16,560 has to step forward and pull their own 1876 01:10:20,149 --> 01:10:18,000 weight and make their own effort and 1877 01:10:22,229 --> 01:10:20,159 create we're here to be 1878 01:10:24,390 --> 01:10:22,239 small c creators 1879 01:10:27,030 --> 01:10:24,400 and we're here to create with our unique 1880 01:10:29,590 --> 01:10:27,040 abilities and and our senses and our 1881 01:10:31,590 --> 01:10:29,600 understanding and then create media that 1882 01:10:33,669 --> 01:10:31,600 you can share with others this is what 1883 01:10:35,830 --> 01:10:33,679 we're here to do we're here to reach out 1884 01:10:38,550 --> 01:10:35,840 to others through our words through the 1885 01:10:41,270 --> 01:10:38,560 ways that we can formulate ideas and put 1886 01:10:43,430 --> 01:10:41,280 them before other people's attention and 1887 01:10:44,790 --> 01:10:43,440 uh that's how we can influence others to 1888 01:10:46,630 --> 01:10:44,800 think differently about things and 1889 01:10:49,430 --> 01:10:46,640 therefore that will inform their 1890 01:10:51,510 --> 01:10:49,440 behavior and make them uh con conduct 1891 01:10:54,470 --> 01:10:51,520 more positive behavior behavior that is 1892 01:10:57,590 --> 01:10:54,480 is within right uh and is not out of 1893 01:10:58,470 --> 01:10:57,600 alignment with what is right and um you 1894 01:11:00,310 --> 01:10:58,480 know 1895 01:11:03,350 --> 01:11:00,320 i give a seminar called how to become 1896 01:11:05,350 --> 01:11:03,360 the true media where uh it's not about 1897 01:11:07,910 --> 01:11:05,360 just following what i'm saying i don't 1898 01:11:10,070 --> 01:11:07,920 want followers i don't want subscribers 1899 01:11:11,750 --> 01:11:10,080 and followers i'm not interested in that 1900 01:11:13,750 --> 01:11:11,760 i'm interested in people who want to 1901 01:11:16,149 --> 01:11:13,760 become teachers themselves i'm 1902 01:11:18,709 --> 01:11:16,159 interested in people who want to master 1903 01:11:20,550 --> 01:11:18,719 real spiritual material and then teach 1904 01:11:22,550 --> 01:11:20,560 that to other people 1905 01:11:24,149 --> 01:11:22,560 uh in their own way in their own fashion 1906 01:11:26,550 --> 01:11:24,159 because you know what not everybody will 1907 01:11:28,709 --> 01:11:26,560 receive it from me and i know that and 1908 01:11:30,950 --> 01:11:28,719 that's okay not everybody has to receive 1909 01:11:32,630 --> 01:11:30,960 it from me some people may not like my 1910 01:11:33,990 --> 01:11:32,640 style some people may not like my 1911 01:11:36,310 --> 01:11:34,000 personality 1912 01:11:38,630 --> 01:11:36,320 i don't necessarily like everybody else 1913 01:11:40,310 --> 01:11:38,640 no you don't have to right that's not 1914 01:11:42,149 --> 01:11:40,320 required what's required is to 1915 01:11:43,830 --> 01:11:42,159 understand what right and wrong are 1916 01:11:46,070 --> 01:11:43,840 what's required is understand what the 1917 01:11:47,990 --> 01:11:46,080 human condition is and change it for the 1918 01:11:52,070 --> 01:11:48,000 better because it's not so good right 1919 01:11:54,229 --> 01:11:52,080 now okay uh and you know nobody has to 1920 01:11:56,149 --> 01:11:54,239 take the receive this information from 1921 01:11:58,310 --> 01:11:56,159 me but they have to receive it from 1922 01:12:00,470 --> 01:11:58,320 somewhere if they want to make progress 1923 01:12:02,310 --> 01:12:00,480 so for people that do kind of uh you 1924 01:12:06,229 --> 01:12:02,320 know jibe with my 1925 01:12:08,709 --> 01:12:06,239 more street uh style um you know that's 1926 01:12:10,229 --> 01:12:08,719 no bones that's i i don't beat around 1927 01:12:12,870 --> 01:12:10,239 the bush i don't i don't speak 1928 01:12:15,189 --> 01:12:12,880 cryptically uh i i don't talk to people 1929 01:12:17,430 --> 01:12:15,199 like they're uh a child insofar as 1930 01:12:18,790 --> 01:12:17,440 they're not ready to hear what i have to 1931 01:12:20,630 --> 01:12:18,800 say if you're not ready to hear what i 1932 01:12:22,870 --> 01:12:20,640 have to say just turn it off that's what 1933 01:12:24,790 --> 01:12:22,880 i just tell people you know i'm not here 1934 01:12:27,110 --> 01:12:24,800 to sugarcoat anything you know i'm here 1935 01:12:29,510 --> 01:12:27,120 to tell you we're in the final hours of 1936 01:12:31,110 --> 01:12:29,520 this whole thing and uh you know if you 1937 01:12:33,830 --> 01:12:31,120 haven't figured out what's going on yet 1938 01:12:35,590 --> 01:12:33,840 you're really slow to the party you know 1939 01:12:38,229 --> 01:12:35,600 and uh maybe you need to pick up the 1940 01:12:40,950 --> 01:12:38,239 pace a little bit so for people that can 1941 01:12:43,110 --> 01:12:40,960 handle my style you know i give a class 1942 01:12:45,110 --> 01:12:43,120 called how to become the true media and 1943 01:12:46,709 --> 01:12:45,120 it's basically uh 1944 01:12:49,510 --> 01:12:46,719 teaching my 1945 01:12:52,390 --> 01:12:49,520 you know lifetime of skill sets in the 1946 01:12:54,550 --> 01:12:52,400 whole realm of computing 1947 01:12:57,030 --> 01:12:54,560 to explain to them well how do you start 1948 01:12:59,350 --> 01:12:57,040 a podcast how do you make a website how 1949 01:13:00,950 --> 01:12:59,360 do you make a video you know uh how do 1950 01:13:02,470 --> 01:13:00,960 you make a presentation and what 1951 01:13:04,229 --> 01:13:02,480 equipment's going to be required to 1952 01:13:05,750 --> 01:13:04,239 deliver a presentation live in front of 1953 01:13:07,910 --> 01:13:05,760 people like i've done 1954 01:13:10,149 --> 01:13:07,920 uh and showing them all the software you 1955 01:13:12,870 --> 01:13:10,159 know taking them through it week by week 1956 01:13:15,270 --> 01:13:12,880 it's like a long seminar it's a 1957 01:13:17,750 --> 01:13:15,280 six month long seminar one day a week 1958 01:13:19,189 --> 01:13:17,760 three hours a night right so right now 1959 01:13:20,870 --> 01:13:19,199 we're meeting thursday nights i think 1960 01:13:22,790 --> 01:13:20,880 next year i'm going to change it back to 1961 01:13:24,229 --> 01:13:22,800 tuesday nights maybe wednesday night 1962 01:13:26,149 --> 01:13:24,239 something like that 1963 01:13:29,430 --> 01:13:26,159 and you know for three hours i teach 1964 01:13:31,110 --> 01:13:29,440 this course each week for 23 weeks 1965 01:13:32,390 --> 01:13:31,120 that's about six months out of the year 1966 01:13:34,470 --> 01:13:32,400 approximately 1967 01:13:36,550 --> 01:13:34,480 and um it's a commitment of time you 1968 01:13:39,110 --> 01:13:36,560 know it's a it's a it's a commitment of 1969 01:13:40,709 --> 01:13:39,120 attention and time and uh you know 1970 01:13:43,270 --> 01:13:40,719 sacrificing a little bit of your time 1971 01:13:45,669 --> 01:13:43,280 each week to learn these skills and then 1972 01:13:48,229 --> 01:13:45,679 practice them on your own and we've got 1973 01:13:49,910 --> 01:13:48,239 some people who are like you know really 1974 01:13:51,990 --> 01:13:49,920 really you know 1975 01:13:53,750 --> 01:13:52,000 using it using the skill sets and 1976 01:13:56,070 --> 01:13:53,760 they're like star pupils coming out of 1977 01:13:57,910 --> 01:13:56,080 it making their own content i've already 1978 01:14:01,350 --> 01:13:57,920 put them on my network of content 1979 01:14:03,030 --> 01:14:01,360 creators that i started uh early 2021 1980 01:14:05,030 --> 01:14:03,040 you know envisioned it 1981 01:14:07,590 --> 01:14:05,040 back years ago didn't have the resources 1982 01:14:09,189 --> 01:14:07,600 to build the network finally did got the 1983 01:14:12,950 --> 01:14:09,199 help that i needed we built it it's 1984 01:14:18,390 --> 01:14:15,990 again onegreatworknetwork.com 1985 01:14:19,510 --> 01:14:18,400 and we have like 52 content creators up 1986 01:14:21,590 --> 01:14:19,520 there already we're going to be on 1987 01:14:22,550 --> 01:14:21,600 boarding a few more before the year is 1988 01:14:24,790 --> 01:14:22,560 out 1989 01:14:27,270 --> 01:14:24,800 and um you know 1990 01:14:29,750 --> 01:14:27,280 some people who took this class ended up 1991 01:14:32,470 --> 01:14:29,760 as even like star pupils and are already 1992 01:14:34,070 --> 01:14:32,480 on one great work network making content 1993 01:14:35,030 --> 01:14:34,080 putting content up there on a weekly 1994 01:14:38,390 --> 01:14:35,040 basis 1995 01:14:40,630 --> 01:14:38,400 so um you know it's very practical very 1996 01:14:42,870 --> 01:14:40,640 practical worldly skill sets are taught 1997 01:14:44,310 --> 01:14:42,880 because a lot of people who have 1998 01:14:46,390 --> 01:14:44,320 knowledge and know a little bit about 1999 01:14:48,229 --> 01:14:46,400 this type of stuff don't know how to 2000 01:14:50,950 --> 01:14:48,239 reach out to other people online and 2001 01:14:53,430 --> 01:14:50,960 teach it uh and we're showing people how 2002 01:14:56,390 --> 01:14:53,440 to do that on a weekly basis i'm now 2003 01:14:58,709 --> 01:14:56,400 kind of restructured my content um so 2004 01:15:00,870 --> 01:14:58,719 that i'm doing a live broadcasting six 2005 01:15:03,669 --> 01:15:00,880 months out of the year and then for the 2006 01:15:05,110 --> 01:15:03,679 other six months i teach this seminar uh 2007 01:15:07,910 --> 01:15:05,120 and i'm going to keep it going in that 2008 01:15:09,990 --> 01:15:07,920 six month on six month off time frame 2009 01:15:12,550 --> 01:15:10,000 because i think that's a better use of 2010 01:15:14,149 --> 01:15:12,560 my time and talents where you know i can 2011 01:15:16,950 --> 01:15:14,159 not only do my own 2012 01:15:18,790 --> 01:15:16,960 outreach uh educationally to people uh 2013 01:15:20,470 --> 01:15:18,800 for six months out of the year but then 2014 01:15:23,270 --> 01:15:20,480 for the other six months i could teach a 2015 01:15:24,709 --> 01:15:23,280 class of potential content creators so 2016 01:15:26,630 --> 01:15:24,719 that's the direction that i've been 2017 01:15:28,870 --> 01:15:26,640 taking my work in uh in the last couple 2018 01:15:31,430 --> 01:15:28,880 of years 2019 01:15:33,350 --> 01:15:31,440 you know i don't want this to sound too 2020 01:15:35,430 --> 01:15:33,360 too condescending for those listening 2021 01:15:37,189 --> 01:15:35,440 but you know it was one of those things 2022 01:15:39,110 --> 01:15:37,199 uh so many years into it where i 2023 01:15:39,990 --> 01:15:39,120 realized i have to 2024 01:15:41,990 --> 01:15:40,000 give 2025 01:15:43,750 --> 01:15:42,000 practical examples because i thought 2026 01:15:45,750 --> 01:15:43,760 people were like me where you get 2027 01:15:47,910 --> 01:15:45,760 information like okay i'll take with it 2028 01:15:50,630 --> 01:15:47,920 and run with it and but most people 2029 01:15:52,630 --> 01:15:50,640 don't do that or don't know how and so 2030 01:15:54,310 --> 01:15:52,640 it's almost like uh just recently you 2031 01:15:56,149 --> 01:15:54,320 know i had to kind of apply this with my 2032 01:15:57,590 --> 01:15:56,159 older son you know i constantly keep 2033 01:15:59,510 --> 01:15:57,600 telling him it's like find something you 2034 01:16:01,189 --> 01:15:59,520 love doing and then get interested in it 2035 01:16:03,270 --> 01:16:01,199 you know if there's some something i can 2036 01:16:05,669 --> 01:16:03,280 do to help out let me know and and we'll 2037 01:16:08,630 --> 01:16:05,679 do that because he's 14 now and i 2038 01:16:09,990 --> 01:16:08,640 remember when i was 14 i already i felt 2039 01:16:12,310 --> 01:16:10,000 like all right and you have to think i 2040 01:16:14,630 --> 01:16:12,320 know today you know and i'm just trying 2041 01:16:17,110 --> 01:16:14,640 to like just get get your brain going 2042 01:16:18,310 --> 01:16:17,120 you know and so uh his mother and i were 2043 01:16:19,430 --> 01:16:18,320 kind of talking about this i'm like 2044 01:16:21,750 --> 01:16:19,440 we're gonna have to start giving him 2045 01:16:25,030 --> 01:16:21,760 some practical examples so i said you 2046 01:16:27,270 --> 01:16:25,040 know uh so far for his birthday um you 2047 01:16:29,750 --> 01:16:27,280 know it was something fun to do but at 2048 01:16:31,990 --> 01:16:29,760 the same time it was an example where he 2049 01:16:34,310 --> 01:16:32,000 now could step outside the norm and 2050 01:16:36,709 --> 01:16:34,320 which was um you know i was always 2051 01:16:38,790 --> 01:16:36,719 interested in planes you know the way 2052 01:16:40,630 --> 01:16:38,800 you know the fly and it's it's something 2053 01:16:42,310 --> 01:16:40,640 you know it's a it's a passion i never 2054 01:16:43,750 --> 01:16:42,320 really followed it you know followed up 2055 01:16:45,430 --> 01:16:43,760 with because i have like 100 other 2056 01:16:47,910 --> 01:16:45,440 things i'm following up on right and so 2057 01:16:49,750 --> 01:16:47,920 anyway so for his birthday got him this 2058 01:16:52,310 --> 01:16:49,760 you know uh they call it the discovery 2059 01:16:53,990 --> 01:16:52,320 flight and basically for an hour a half 2060 01:16:55,669 --> 01:16:54,000 hour you learn about the plane and all 2061 01:16:57,590 --> 01:16:55,679 that stuff and the other half you you 2062 01:16:59,830 --> 01:16:57,600 get to fly a little bit yourself and be 2063 01:17:01,510 --> 01:16:59,840 up in the air and so it was i was trying 2064 01:17:03,110 --> 01:17:01,520 to tell them i said i keep telling you 2065 01:17:05,430 --> 01:17:03,120 to be interested in something yourself 2066 01:17:07,110 --> 01:17:05,440 but you're not taking an initiative so 2067 01:17:08,950 --> 01:17:07,120 this is going to be something fun for 2068 01:17:11,750 --> 01:17:08,960 you to do but it's also something you 2069 01:17:13,270 --> 01:17:11,760 can potentially do as a job later and 2070 01:17:15,350 --> 01:17:13,280 he's like oh what is it i'm like you're 2071 01:17:18,149 --> 01:17:15,360 going to find out so i kept that mystery 2072 01:17:20,070 --> 01:17:18,159 there but it was again trying to apply 2073 01:17:21,350 --> 01:17:20,080 physically to like i keep telling you to 2074 01:17:23,990 --> 01:17:21,360 do something you're not doing anything 2075 01:17:25,910 --> 01:17:24,000 so i guess let me do it for you you know 2076 01:17:27,750 --> 01:17:25,920 and so that's the the challenging part 2077 01:17:29,350 --> 01:17:27,760 too when people often talk to me about 2078 01:17:31,510 --> 01:17:29,360 um you know 2079 01:17:33,270 --> 01:17:31,520 contact and and aliens i said so well 2080 01:17:35,830 --> 01:17:33,280 how much time for example do you spend 2081 01:17:38,310 --> 01:17:35,840 meditating right because one of the you 2082 01:17:41,430 --> 01:17:38,320 know parts you know know thyself it's 2083 01:17:43,990 --> 01:17:41,440 like do you know your inner voice your 2084 01:17:45,830 --> 01:17:44,000 your you know what makes you tick you 2085 01:17:48,390 --> 01:17:45,840 know can you quiet yourself down enough 2086 01:17:50,390 --> 01:17:48,400 to you know to actually allow something 2087 01:17:52,550 --> 01:17:50,400 else to occur during this meditation 2088 01:17:54,470 --> 01:17:52,560 time you know it's like um you know do 2089 01:17:56,630 --> 01:17:54,480 you if you want something more practical 2090 01:17:59,030 --> 01:17:56,640 how often do you go outside you know and 2091 01:18:00,550 --> 01:17:59,040 just do stargazing for example right all 2092 01:18:02,470 --> 01:18:00,560 these different things you know they'll 2093 01:18:04,390 --> 01:18:02,480 all most of them will always just be in 2094 01:18:06,149 --> 01:18:04,400 front of computers watching the next 2095 01:18:08,390 --> 01:18:06,159 show i said well then that's just 2096 01:18:09,990 --> 01:18:08,400 entertainment you know you're just using 2097 01:18:11,830 --> 01:18:10,000 more more stuff that you want for 2098 01:18:13,510 --> 01:18:11,840 entertainment that keeps that ego 2099 01:18:15,350 --> 01:18:13,520 entertained until the next show and the 2100 01:18:16,630 --> 01:18:15,360 next show and the next show well you'll 2101 01:18:19,030 --> 01:18:16,640 be sitting there listening to me 2102 01:18:20,709 --> 01:18:19,040 listening to you show after show and 2103 01:18:23,430 --> 01:18:20,719 where have you what have you done in all 2104 01:18:25,110 --> 01:18:23,440 those years right and so anyway so i 2105 01:18:27,030 --> 01:18:25,120 don't want to keep hammering you know on 2106 01:18:29,990 --> 01:18:27,040 and on about this but again it goes back 2107 01:18:33,510 --> 01:18:30,000 to the to what you were saying it's just 2108 01:18:36,070 --> 01:18:33,520 you know be be responsible um so do you 2109 01:18:38,149 --> 01:18:36,080 mark do you want to go into q a now or 2110 01:18:40,630 --> 01:18:38,159 um do you want to yeah that that would 2111 01:18:42,470 --> 01:18:40,640 be great i'd be definitely interested in 2112 01:18:44,390 --> 01:18:42,480 what questions your listening audience 2113 01:18:46,709 --> 01:18:44,400 has for me and i'll answer anything that 2114 01:18:49,350 --> 01:18:46,719 they pose they might yeah they might um 2115 01:18:52,149 --> 01:18:49,360 you know go into some directions that i 2116 01:18:54,149 --> 01:18:52,159 don't know to ask you so um 2117 01:18:56,709 --> 01:18:54,159 that's fine any any way anyone wants to 2118 01:18:58,550 --> 01:18:56,719 take it is fine by me okay so if you 2119 01:19:00,550 --> 01:18:58,560 have any questions in the chat please 2120 01:19:02,709 --> 01:19:00,560 make sure to use the three asterisks i 2121 01:19:05,750 --> 01:19:02,719 call them three stars and then ask a 2122 01:19:07,830 --> 01:19:05,760 question but yo-yo in uh in the group 2123 01:19:10,229 --> 01:19:07,840 here let me see if he's still available 2124 01:19:12,790 --> 01:19:10,239 i'm going to mute him 2125 01:19:14,470 --> 01:19:12,800 um yo-yo you're unmuted and mute 2126 01:19:15,830 --> 01:19:14,480 yourself and go ahead and ask a question 2127 01:19:17,910 --> 01:19:15,840 please 2128 01:19:19,350 --> 01:19:17,920 yeah so well it's kind of a 2129 01:19:22,149 --> 01:19:19,360 i kind of figured something out i don't 2130 01:19:25,110 --> 01:19:22,159 see if like uh get some confirmation so 2131 01:19:27,590 --> 01:19:25,120 the kanan able deal you know that story 2132 01:19:30,149 --> 01:19:27,600 so i've heard this other uh and then 2133 01:19:32,149 --> 01:19:30,159 with my understanding of natural law 2134 01:19:33,910 --> 01:19:32,159 i kind of apply that to what i heard 2135 01:19:36,470 --> 01:19:33,920 some new information about the canaan 2136 01:19:38,550 --> 01:19:36,480 abel is that abel was the one that 2137 01:19:42,470 --> 01:19:38,560 actually started it and he was 2138 01:19:45,110 --> 01:19:42,480 trespassing with his um herd upon 2139 01:19:46,149 --> 01:19:45,120 uh was it kane's land cane i guess was 2140 01:19:47,830 --> 01:19:46,159 like the 2141 01:19:49,669 --> 01:19:47,840 the planter 2142 01:19:52,149 --> 01:19:49,679 and then so 2143 01:19:53,990 --> 01:19:52,159 like how society says that the kane guy 2144 01:19:56,630 --> 01:19:54,000 is the evil one and he's the one who was 2145 01:19:59,110 --> 01:19:56,640 wrong but if you look at natural law and 2146 01:20:01,510 --> 01:19:59,120 abel was kind of the one who started it 2147 01:20:03,669 --> 01:20:01,520 and then kane had a right to defend his 2148 01:20:05,270 --> 01:20:03,679 own property and his damage i mean he 2149 01:20:06,790 --> 01:20:05,280 may have went too far and killed a guy 2150 01:20:08,790 --> 01:20:06,800 but i mean once you're in a fight you 2151 01:20:10,550 --> 01:20:08,800 know anything can go in a fight 2152 01:20:12,229 --> 01:20:10,560 you know anybody that knows that can you 2153 01:20:13,110 --> 01:20:12,239 know you don't know how things are gonna 2154 01:20:14,629 --> 01:20:13,120 go 2155 01:20:16,310 --> 01:20:14,639 so like 2156 01:20:18,870 --> 01:20:16,320 people are teaching the wrong thing with 2157 01:20:20,310 --> 01:20:18,880 cain and abel and then i was like can i 2158 01:20:22,390 --> 01:20:20,320 get like your 2159 01:20:23,590 --> 01:20:22,400 am i you do you think i have a point or 2160 01:20:25,270 --> 01:20:23,600 like you know 2161 01:20:27,750 --> 01:20:25,280 well i don't i don't really i don't 2162 01:20:30,870 --> 01:20:27,760 really see i don't really see natural 2163 01:20:33,830 --> 01:20:30,880 laws necessarily connected with biblical 2164 01:20:37,430 --> 01:20:33,840 allegory or the stories of cain and abel 2165 01:20:40,470 --> 01:20:37,440 i look at that as basically you know 2166 01:20:42,310 --> 01:20:40,480 teaching people just not to not to you 2167 01:20:45,669 --> 01:20:42,320 know aggress upon their fellow beings 2168 01:20:48,390 --> 01:20:45,679 which is a part of natural law but um uh 2169 01:20:51,590 --> 01:20:48,400 natural law has nothing to do with uh 2170 01:20:52,629 --> 01:20:51,600 just fables or stories or uh allegories 2171 01:20:55,270 --> 01:20:52,639 per se 2172 01:20:58,310 --> 01:20:55,280 uh it's actually something that is 2173 01:21:01,270 --> 01:20:58,320 embedded into the fabric of reality so 2174 01:21:02,550 --> 01:21:01,280 when i say natural law what i mean is a 2175 01:21:05,110 --> 01:21:02,560 set of 2176 01:21:07,189 --> 01:21:05,120 100 non-man-made 2177 01:21:09,510 --> 01:21:07,199 um conditions 2178 01:21:11,910 --> 01:21:09,520 that actually govern 2179 01:21:14,070 --> 01:21:11,920 the consequences of the behaviors that 2180 01:21:15,990 --> 01:21:14,080 we put into the universe through our 2181 01:21:19,350 --> 01:21:16,000 choices we 2182 01:21:21,590 --> 01:21:19,360 uh think of you know how things are we 2183 01:21:26,149 --> 01:21:21,600 think of what we want 2184 01:21:29,270 --> 01:21:26,159 then we have a feeling about it in our 2185 01:21:30,950 --> 01:21:29,280 bodies and we act with our bodies so 2186 01:21:33,270 --> 01:21:30,960 there's thought emotion and action 2187 01:21:35,990 --> 01:21:33,280 coming together to perform a behavior 2188 01:21:39,430 --> 01:21:36,000 okay of course the behavior is going to 2189 01:21:41,910 --> 01:21:39,440 be informed by the information that we 2190 01:21:43,750 --> 01:21:41,920 take into our minds first and process 2191 01:21:45,830 --> 01:21:43,760 through our emotional selves but then 2192 01:21:49,110 --> 01:21:45,840 when we act into the world 2193 01:21:51,430 --> 01:21:49,120 we are generating a consequence 2194 01:21:53,669 --> 01:21:51,440 always you cannot act without 2195 01:21:56,310 --> 01:21:53,679 consequence there is a connection 2196 01:21:59,590 --> 01:21:56,320 between behavior and consequence and 2197 01:22:02,629 --> 01:21:59,600 when the aggregate of humanity chooses 2198 01:22:04,229 --> 01:22:02,639 certain behaviors we then receive back 2199 01:22:06,629 --> 01:22:04,239 from the universe 2200 01:22:09,030 --> 01:22:06,639 aggregate consequences 2201 01:22:12,790 --> 01:22:09,040 and if our behaviors were within our 2202 01:22:15,910 --> 01:22:12,800 rights if they did not initiate harm or 2203 01:22:17,910 --> 01:22:15,920 if they did not condone harm as a whole 2204 01:22:20,470 --> 01:22:17,920 body of people not just one at a time 2205 01:22:21,350 --> 01:22:20,480 see this is what how people misinterpret 2206 01:22:23,590 --> 01:22:21,360 how 2207 01:22:25,510 --> 01:22:23,600 karma works right which is essentially 2208 01:22:28,470 --> 01:22:25,520 what natural law is 2209 01:22:30,149 --> 01:22:28,480 they think you steal from somebody 2210 01:22:31,750 --> 01:22:30,159 let's say you pick up something from 2211 01:22:33,110 --> 01:22:31,760 somebody's coffee table in their house 2212 01:22:35,750 --> 01:22:33,120 you put it in your pocket and you walk 2213 01:22:37,590 --> 01:22:35,760 out and immediately a wrecking ball 2214 01:22:39,110 --> 01:22:37,600 comes swings from a crane and hits you 2215 01:22:41,030 --> 01:22:39,120 and you know 2216 01:22:42,709 --> 01:22:41,040 kills you or knocks you down and knocks 2217 01:22:45,590 --> 01:22:42,719 you out puts you in the hospital that's 2218 01:22:46,629 --> 01:22:45,600 not how karma works karma is not an 2219 01:22:48,550 --> 01:22:46,639 instant 2220 01:22:50,149 --> 01:22:48,560 effect one to one as soon as you do 2221 01:22:52,390 --> 01:22:50,159 something wrong something bad happens to 2222 01:22:56,310 --> 01:22:52,400 you it does not work like that that's 2223 01:22:58,229 --> 01:22:56,320 how a an infantile version of karma is 2224 01:22:59,990 --> 01:22:58,239 perceived by most people 2225 01:23:02,070 --> 01:23:00,000 and how karma really works and how 2226 01:23:04,709 --> 01:23:02,080 natural law really works is over 2227 01:23:06,870 --> 01:23:04,719 wide swaths of time 2228 01:23:09,669 --> 01:23:06,880 huge stretches of time 2229 01:23:12,550 --> 01:23:09,679 where we can barely see 2230 01:23:13,590 --> 01:23:12,560 the effect over long periods of time 2231 01:23:19,750 --> 01:23:13,600 unless 2232 01:23:21,990 --> 01:23:19,760 listen to wise people who told us over 2233 01:23:23,270 --> 01:23:22,000 time if you keep doing this this is the 2234 01:23:25,270 --> 01:23:23,280 direction you're going to be headed and 2235 01:23:26,310 --> 01:23:25,280 here's going to be the consequence and 2236 01:23:28,950 --> 01:23:26,320 you're not going to want that 2237 01:23:30,950 --> 01:23:28,960 consequence but if you change your path 2238 01:23:32,790 --> 01:23:30,960 and you go here you're going to receive 2239 01:23:35,669 --> 01:23:32,800 a good consequence that it's going to be 2240 01:23:37,590 --> 01:23:35,679 what you said you want to happen and how 2241 01:23:41,189 --> 01:23:37,600 you want society to be 2242 01:23:43,270 --> 01:23:41,199 and we're sort of as a species 2243 01:23:45,990 --> 01:23:43,280 not getting the connection because we 2244 01:23:48,070 --> 01:23:46,000 don't see in long periods of time we 2245 01:23:49,750 --> 01:23:48,080 look for immediate gratification i want 2246 01:23:51,510 --> 01:23:49,760 this now i want to see the result now 2247 01:23:53,990 --> 01:23:51,520 now now now right 2248 01:23:55,590 --> 01:23:54,000 and that's not how karma works over long 2249 01:23:56,790 --> 01:23:55,600 periods of time that's not how natural 2250 01:24:03,110 --> 01:23:56,800 law works 2251 01:24:05,830 --> 01:24:03,120 groups of people whole societies of 2252 01:24:08,629 --> 01:24:05,840 people the aggregate consciousness 2253 01:24:12,070 --> 01:24:08,639 and then we get an aggregate result so 2254 01:24:14,070 --> 01:24:12,080 we're in the result now of society being 2255 01:24:16,070 --> 01:24:14,080 closed down freedom being destroyed 2256 01:24:17,910 --> 01:24:16,080 because of what all the people who came 2257 01:24:20,390 --> 01:24:17,920 before us did 2258 01:24:22,550 --> 01:24:20,400 tolerated let happen 2259 01:24:25,030 --> 01:24:22,560 okay what they understood or didn't 2260 01:24:27,750 --> 01:24:25,040 understand and passed down generation to 2261 01:24:29,350 --> 01:24:27,760 generation to generation and then 2262 01:24:31,910 --> 01:24:29,360 there's a result in the world and the 2263 01:24:34,070 --> 01:24:31,920 world becomes a certain way and that 2264 01:24:36,229 --> 01:24:34,080 total aggregate result becomes more and 2265 01:24:38,790 --> 01:24:36,239 more hardened and harder and harder to 2266 01:24:40,950 --> 01:24:38,800 undo because more people have to make 2267 01:24:43,669 --> 01:24:40,960 the decision to undo the way things are 2268 01:24:45,110 --> 01:24:43,679 more people aren't strong enough they're 2269 01:24:47,110 --> 01:24:45,120 not 2270 01:24:48,870 --> 01:24:47,120 courageous enough they aren't 2271 01:24:50,950 --> 01:24:48,880 intelligent enough 2272 01:24:53,510 --> 01:24:50,960 see this is what we need we need 2273 01:24:56,470 --> 01:24:53,520 intelligence to overcome ignorance we 2274 01:24:59,030 --> 01:24:56,480 need care to overcome apathy and we need 2275 01:25:00,870 --> 01:24:59,040 willpower and courage to overcome 2276 01:25:03,110 --> 01:25:00,880 laziness and 2277 01:25:04,629 --> 01:25:03,120 uh cowardice and 2278 01:25:06,629 --> 01:25:04,639 these are the skills that aren't being 2279 01:25:08,629 --> 01:25:06,639 taught to children 2280 01:25:10,390 --> 01:25:08,639 and adults they're not certainly not 2281 01:25:12,149 --> 01:25:10,400 being taught by parents to children 2282 01:25:13,590 --> 01:25:12,159 unfortunately you know they're being 2283 01:25:15,030 --> 01:25:13,600 taught go out and get as high paying a 2284 01:25:17,110 --> 01:25:15,040 job as possible because money is all 2285 01:25:18,550 --> 01:25:17,120 that matters that's largely the lesson 2286 01:25:20,390 --> 01:25:18,560 parents teach their children in the 2287 01:25:22,550 --> 01:25:20,400 modern world they don't teach them 2288 01:25:25,270 --> 01:25:22,560 principles they don't teach them 2289 01:25:27,270 --> 01:25:25,280 become truly holistically intelligent 2290 01:25:29,110 --> 01:25:27,280 not just memorizing things that your 2291 01:25:30,950 --> 01:25:29,120 professor in college tells you to 2292 01:25:32,310 --> 01:25:30,960 memorize and spit back on a test that's 2293 01:25:34,629 --> 01:25:32,320 not real intelligence that's not 2294 01:25:36,470 --> 01:25:34,639 holistic intelligence that's left brain 2295 01:25:37,750 --> 01:25:36,480 intellect and memorization that doesn't 2296 01:25:39,430 --> 01:25:37,760 mean you have any common sense it 2297 01:25:40,950 --> 01:25:39,440 doesn't mean you have any heart based 2298 01:25:42,550 --> 01:25:40,960 intelligence it doesn't mean you know 2299 01:25:44,470 --> 01:25:42,560 the difference between right and wrong 2300 01:25:45,990 --> 01:25:44,480 you know plenty of people who are very 2301 01:25:47,669 --> 01:25:46,000 advanced in the sciences don't give a 2302 01:25:50,470 --> 01:25:47,679 damn about what's right and wrong you 2303 01:25:51,910 --> 01:25:50,480 know so they're stupid in that capacity 2304 01:25:53,990 --> 01:25:51,920 they're they're very dumb in the 2305 01:25:56,149 --> 01:25:54,000 capacity of real world holistic 2306 01:25:58,229 --> 01:25:56,159 intelligence but they can crunch numbers 2307 01:26:00,070 --> 01:25:58,239 like nobody's business in the left brain 2308 01:26:02,310 --> 01:26:00,080 you know that's that that's not going to 2309 01:26:04,550 --> 01:26:02,320 be able to solve all human problems and 2310 01:26:07,350 --> 01:26:04,560 they unfortunately believe it can and 2311 01:26:09,750 --> 01:26:07,360 they've bought a big lie you know uh but 2312 01:26:11,270 --> 01:26:09,760 you know to go back to the the question 2313 01:26:13,270 --> 01:26:11,280 uh we have to understand what natural 2314 01:26:16,470 --> 01:26:13,280 law really is it's 2315 01:26:17,990 --> 01:26:16,480 uh 100 non-man-made 2316 01:26:20,310 --> 01:26:18,000 eternal 2317 01:26:22,550 --> 01:26:20,320 uh immutable conditions that can never 2318 01:26:24,629 --> 01:26:22,560 be changed in nature that govern the 2319 01:26:27,830 --> 01:26:24,639 consequences of the behavioral choices 2320 01:26:30,149 --> 01:26:27,840 that we as beings with the capacity for 2321 01:26:30,870 --> 01:26:30,159 holistic intelligence make that means 2322 01:26:33,350 --> 01:26:30,880 that 2323 01:26:35,430 --> 01:26:33,360 natural law karmic consequences do not 2324 01:26:39,510 --> 01:26:35,440 apply to the animal kingdom 2325 01:26:41,750 --> 01:26:39,520 to to animals below our a holistic level 2326 01:26:44,390 --> 01:26:41,760 of intelligence and understanding you 2327 01:26:46,149 --> 01:26:44,400 have to be able to grasp the difference 2328 01:26:47,669 --> 01:26:46,159 between right and wrong behavior you 2329 01:26:50,390 --> 01:26:47,679 have to be able to have that in your 2330 01:26:51,830 --> 01:26:50,400 mind and be able to comprehend 2331 01:26:53,430 --> 01:26:51,840 what is the difference between a 2332 01:26:55,750 --> 01:26:53,440 behavior that is a right and a behavior 2333 01:26:58,390 --> 01:26:55,760 that is a wrong animals don't have that 2334 01:27:01,270 --> 01:26:58,400 level of holistic intelligence they are 2335 01:27:02,790 --> 01:27:01,280 largely instinctual creatures they do 2336 01:27:04,790 --> 01:27:02,800 have emotions but they're not as 2337 01:27:06,310 --> 01:27:04,800 complexified as human beings and 2338 01:27:08,229 --> 01:27:06,320 certainly their intellect is not as 2339 01:27:10,629 --> 01:27:08,239 complexified as human beings they act 2340 01:27:13,910 --> 01:27:10,639 largely on instinctive response 2341 01:27:17,750 --> 01:27:13,920 so you can't apply this to a lion or a 2342 01:27:19,430 --> 01:27:17,760 deer or a dog or a cat or a mouse um but 2343 01:27:21,590 --> 01:27:19,440 you can apply it to a human being 2344 01:27:23,350 --> 01:27:21,600 because we have the capacity of the 2345 01:27:24,709 --> 01:27:23,360 level of thought to understand the 2346 01:27:27,030 --> 01:27:24,719 difference between right and wrong and 2347 01:27:29,030 --> 01:27:27,040 that is why natural law karmic 2348 01:27:31,590 --> 01:27:29,040 consequence applies to human beings and 2349 01:27:33,350 --> 01:27:31,600 not to animals lower than human beings 2350 01:27:35,350 --> 01:27:33,360 so uh one thing we have to understand 2351 01:27:37,590 --> 01:27:35,360 that natural law is not it is not the 2352 01:27:39,510 --> 01:27:37,600 law of the jungle it is not animal 2353 01:27:40,790 --> 01:27:39,520 behavior has nothing to do with animal 2354 01:27:44,149 --> 01:27:40,800 behavior has nothing to do with 2355 01:27:46,550 --> 01:27:44,159 darwinian uh you know um evolution 2356 01:27:48,629 --> 01:27:46,560 so-called okay it has nothing to do with 2357 01:27:50,950 --> 01:27:48,639 survival of the fittest none of that is 2358 01:27:52,550 --> 01:27:50,960 natural law you could look at that and 2359 01:27:54,390 --> 01:27:52,560 people call that the natural order 2360 01:27:57,510 --> 01:27:54,400 there's nothing really natural or 2361 01:27:59,189 --> 01:27:57,520 orderly about it okay uh that is uh the 2362 01:28:01,830 --> 01:27:59,199 the the 2363 01:28:04,149 --> 01:28:01,840 most barbaric creature with the sharpest 2364 01:28:05,990 --> 01:28:04,159 teeth and claws wins and that's nothing 2365 01:28:06,709 --> 01:28:06,000 that human beings should aspire to at 2366 01:28:09,189 --> 01:28:06,719 all 2367 01:28:12,950 --> 01:28:09,199 that's purely animal instinctive 2368 01:28:16,470 --> 01:28:12,960 behavior that we should aspire to act 2369 01:28:18,310 --> 01:28:16,480 way at a way higher level then you know 2370 01:28:20,950 --> 01:28:18,320 we are not just any other animal as a 2371 01:28:23,510 --> 01:28:20,960 matter of fact the idea that we are just 2372 01:28:26,229 --> 01:28:23,520 any other animal uh is a satanic 2373 01:28:29,590 --> 01:28:26,239 ideology that is taught in satanism and 2374 01:28:31,430 --> 01:28:29,600 it's false it's not true we are beyond 2375 01:28:33,590 --> 01:28:31,440 other animals as human beings that's why 2376 01:28:35,910 --> 01:28:33,600 we're human beings and they are not 2377 01:28:38,070 --> 01:28:35,920 uh and that isn't to say we should just 2378 01:28:40,149 --> 01:28:38,080 treat them however we want we should be 2379 01:28:43,270 --> 01:28:40,159 the stewards of other life on this 2380 01:28:45,189 --> 01:28:43,280 planet that's why i don't harm other 2381 01:28:47,590 --> 01:28:45,199 sentient beings i consider animals 2382 01:28:49,830 --> 01:28:47,600 sentient beings i don't harm them i try 2383 01:28:51,990 --> 01:28:49,840 to do the least harm possible that's why 2384 01:28:54,310 --> 01:28:52,000 i eat a plant-based diet and that's a 2385 01:28:56,470 --> 01:28:54,320 big huge controversial topic in and of 2386 01:28:58,229 --> 01:28:56,480 itself but you know i tell people if you 2387 01:29:01,990 --> 01:28:58,239 think that leads to a weak person come 2388 01:29:03,750 --> 01:29:02,000 and test my strength you know uh and i 2389 01:29:05,430 --> 01:29:03,760 you know will not touch animal products 2390 01:29:07,030 --> 01:29:05,440 because i think animals should be left 2391 01:29:08,790 --> 01:29:07,040 alone they're not our property their 2392 01:29:10,790 --> 01:29:08,800 lives are for them to live 2393 01:29:12,790 --> 01:29:10,800 uh and i it's not even because of a 2394 01:29:15,510 --> 01:29:12,800 dietary choice it's because of a moral 2395 01:29:18,790 --> 01:29:15,520 one uh that i choose that form of of uh 2396 01:29:21,030 --> 01:29:18,800 nutrition and it works fine for me uh 2397 01:29:23,030 --> 01:29:21,040 because i do it the right way and um you 2398 01:29:25,350 --> 01:29:23,040 know some people try to do it too 2399 01:29:27,510 --> 01:29:25,360 quickly or too radically and they do it 2400 01:29:29,430 --> 01:29:27,520 the wrong way and they cause abrupt 2401 01:29:31,270 --> 01:29:29,440 changes in their body when it should be 2402 01:29:32,709 --> 01:29:31,280 transitioned to over 2403 01:29:34,709 --> 01:29:32,719 a period of time that the body has 2404 01:29:37,510 --> 01:29:34,719 adequate time to adjust to that's 2405 01:29:39,430 --> 01:29:37,520 another topic of conversation mainly 2406 01:29:41,350 --> 01:29:39,440 what i'm trying to get across is that 2407 01:29:42,950 --> 01:29:41,360 natural law is not the law of the jungle 2408 01:29:46,470 --> 01:29:42,960 it's not survival of the fittest it's 2409 01:29:49,350 --> 01:29:46,480 not darwinian evolution it is spiritual 2410 01:29:51,990 --> 01:29:49,360 moral law that governs the consequences 2411 01:29:54,310 --> 01:29:52,000 of what happens to us whether an entire 2412 01:29:56,629 --> 01:29:54,320 society will be free or enslaved that's 2413 01:29:58,790 --> 01:29:56,639 what natural law governs i have 2414 01:30:00,470 --> 01:29:58,800 something that i call that i've dubbed 2415 01:30:02,310 --> 01:30:00,480 the law of freedom 2416 01:30:05,189 --> 01:30:02,320 there is a law that governs whether a 2417 01:30:07,110 --> 01:30:05,199 whole society is free or not as the 2418 01:30:09,430 --> 01:30:07,120 members of an entire society in the 2419 01:30:11,990 --> 01:30:09,440 aggregate behave morally they become 2420 01:30:14,629 --> 01:30:12,000 more free and as a society in the 2421 01:30:17,270 --> 01:30:14,639 aggregate behaves more immorally and 2422 01:30:19,350 --> 01:30:17,280 does more immoral behaviors and condones 2423 01:30:21,830 --> 01:30:19,360 more immoral behaviors they become more 2424 01:30:23,830 --> 01:30:21,840 and more enslaved as time goes on 2425 01:30:25,590 --> 01:30:23,840 and again this happens over long periods 2426 01:30:27,350 --> 01:30:25,600 of time that's why understanding human 2427 01:30:29,590 --> 01:30:27,360 history is so important and becoming a 2428 01:30:31,590 --> 01:30:29,600 student of history is so important to 2429 01:30:33,910 --> 01:30:31,600 the recognition and understanding of how 2430 01:30:35,910 --> 01:30:33,920 natural law works if you want more info 2431 01:30:37,750 --> 01:30:35,920 on that i suggest watching my 2432 01:30:39,270 --> 01:30:37,760 documentary called mark pacio and the 2433 01:30:41,510 --> 01:30:39,280 science of natural law which i'll be 2434 01:30:44,070 --> 01:30:41,520 releasing for free to the public on 2435 01:30:46,310 --> 01:30:44,080 november 11th the 14th year anniversary 2436 01:30:47,350 --> 01:30:46,320 of the beginning of my public work 2437 01:30:49,430 --> 01:30:47,360 online 2438 01:30:51,750 --> 01:30:49,440 or you can pick it up in my gift shop 2439 01:30:54,790 --> 01:30:51,760 gifts dot waton earth is happening calm 2440 01:30:57,030 --> 01:30:54,800 i have it in a dvd format there and also 2441 01:30:59,910 --> 01:30:57,040 flash drive format if you don't want to 2442 01:31:01,430 --> 01:30:59,920 pick it up for a small fee in the gifts 2443 01:31:03,590 --> 01:31:01,440 area of my site you could just wait for 2444 01:31:06,149 --> 01:31:03,600 me to release it publicly on november 2445 01:31:08,149 --> 01:31:06,159 11th but it is available now in my gift 2446 01:31:10,629 --> 01:31:08,159 section 2447 01:31:13,030 --> 01:31:10,639 thank you for that mark um 2448 01:31:15,270 --> 01:31:13,040 paulie and nathan on on telegram i see 2449 01:31:16,149 --> 01:31:15,280 you raised your hand to ask questions 2450 01:31:17,910 --> 01:31:16,159 and 2451 01:31:19,830 --> 01:31:17,920 i will get to you guys in a quick second 2452 01:31:21,270 --> 01:31:19,840 i have a question that has come in 2453 01:31:24,310 --> 01:31:21,280 through 2454 01:31:26,470 --> 01:31:24,320 this chat from sayo matt 2455 01:31:28,070 --> 01:31:26,480 asking do you think that parents are 2456 01:31:30,470 --> 01:31:28,080 entangled with the karma of their 2457 01:31:33,669 --> 01:31:30,480 children 2458 01:31:35,430 --> 01:31:33,679 absolutely because if parents teach 2459 01:31:37,750 --> 01:31:35,440 their children the wrong things and then 2460 01:31:40,070 --> 01:31:37,760 it gets embedded as a calcified belief 2461 01:31:43,189 --> 01:31:40,080 in the brain of the children 2462 01:31:45,669 --> 01:31:43,199 they will inherit the quote sins of the 2463 01:31:47,750 --> 01:31:45,679 parents this is what is meant by 2464 01:31:49,830 --> 01:31:47,760 you know the sins of the father shall be 2465 01:31:52,149 --> 01:31:49,840 visited upon the sons 2466 01:31:53,189 --> 01:31:52,159 it means that if parents don't take 2467 01:31:55,110 --> 01:31:53,199 conscious 2468 01:31:57,189 --> 01:31:55,120 approach to parenting 2469 01:31:59,510 --> 01:31:57,199 and they don't teach children true 2470 01:32:00,950 --> 01:31:59,520 principles and the truth about morality 2471 01:32:03,110 --> 01:32:00,960 and natural law by learning it 2472 01:32:05,270 --> 01:32:03,120 themselves and then passing it on to 2473 01:32:06,310 --> 01:32:05,280 their children who they are the stewards 2474 01:32:08,470 --> 01:32:06,320 of 2475 01:32:11,030 --> 01:32:08,480 then their children will grow up in a 2476 01:32:15,750 --> 01:32:11,040 state of ignorance and continue the same 2477 01:32:18,550 --> 01:32:15,760 uh immorality that their parents allowed 2478 01:32:20,550 --> 01:32:18,560 condoned or even participated in and 2479 01:32:22,390 --> 01:32:20,560 therefore the karmic consequences and 2480 01:32:24,629 --> 01:32:22,400 karmic debt will be visited upon the 2481 01:32:27,350 --> 01:32:24,639 children as well so absolutely i think 2482 01:32:28,709 --> 01:32:27,360 that is how it works 2483 01:32:31,189 --> 01:32:28,719 okay thank you 2484 01:32:33,750 --> 01:32:31,199 um paulie you are 2485 01:32:37,189 --> 01:32:33,760 um you're unmuted mute yourself on your 2486 01:32:41,189 --> 01:32:39,350 hey mark um i have a couple questions 2487 01:32:44,550 --> 01:32:41,199 you mentioned um 2488 01:32:46,229 --> 01:32:44,560 dark and light occultism 2489 01:32:48,390 --> 01:32:46,239 but you didn't really 2490 01:32:49,270 --> 01:32:48,400 elaborate a little bit on the 2491 01:32:50,950 --> 01:32:49,280 light 2492 01:32:53,110 --> 01:32:50,960 of the groups or whatever i don't know 2493 01:32:54,870 --> 01:32:53,120 if you're talking about freemasonry or 2494 01:32:56,950 --> 01:32:54,880 some other artwork and then before 2495 01:32:58,149 --> 01:32:56,960 before you answer i'll ask another 2496 01:32:59,510 --> 01:32:58,159 question too 2497 01:33:01,669 --> 01:32:59,520 and uh 2498 01:33:03,830 --> 01:33:01,679 a lot you you covered a lot of stuff 2499 01:33:08,629 --> 01:33:03,840 it's hard to keep up but um 2500 01:33:11,350 --> 01:33:08,639 i kind of uh was a little interested in 2501 01:33:13,430 --> 01:33:11,360 local level like community stuff so you 2502 01:33:15,590 --> 01:33:13,440 mentioned that you were surprised that 2503 01:33:17,030 --> 01:33:15,600 people in your neighborhood or community 2504 01:33:19,189 --> 01:33:17,040 were going to these meetings so i was 2505 01:33:24,229 --> 01:33:19,199 like a little curious on that is that 2506 01:33:29,270 --> 01:33:26,790 i mean from general institutions in the 2507 01:33:31,910 --> 01:33:29,280 whole tri-state area you know so there 2508 01:33:35,110 --> 01:33:31,920 were satanists from all over the region 2509 01:33:36,950 --> 01:33:35,120 of this of this region of the country uh 2510 01:33:39,430 --> 01:33:36,960 not specifically from my like 2511 01:33:41,110 --> 01:33:39,440 neighborhood in philadelphia um you know 2512 01:33:42,709 --> 01:33:41,120 when i went to grotto meetings there 2513 01:33:46,070 --> 01:33:42,719 were people there from all over the 2514 01:33:48,790 --> 01:33:46,080 tri-state area who had uh were already 2515 01:33:51,350 --> 01:33:48,800 embedded and entrenched in positions of 2516 01:33:53,910 --> 01:33:51,360 power and authority in different worldly 2517 01:33:56,629 --> 01:33:53,920 institutions principles of schools of 2518 01:33:59,030 --> 01:33:56,639 different counties would show up 2519 01:34:00,950 --> 01:33:59,040 judges in in different municipalities 2520 01:34:03,110 --> 01:34:00,960 would show up 2521 01:34:05,270 --> 01:34:03,120 police there would be police guarding 2522 01:34:08,149 --> 01:34:05,280 the ritual house 2523 01:34:09,910 --> 01:34:08,159 when you would show up is this you know 2524 01:34:11,750 --> 01:34:09,920 is this like a 2525 01:34:13,669 --> 01:34:11,760 dedicated place where everybody knows 2526 01:34:16,470 --> 01:34:13,679 what this building's for they ran out 2527 01:34:18,870 --> 01:34:16,480 places and it's by invitation only it 2528 01:34:21,669 --> 01:34:18,880 was a private home in an affluent 2529 01:34:23,669 --> 01:34:21,679 neighborhood by invitation only 2530 01:34:25,750 --> 01:34:23,679 you know and if somebody tried to crash 2531 01:34:27,510 --> 01:34:25,760 it there were people there with weapons 2532 01:34:29,189 --> 01:34:27,520 you know there wasn't any crashing this 2533 01:34:31,590 --> 01:34:29,199 stuff you had to prove that you were 2534 01:34:34,550 --> 01:34:31,600 invited you know that someone vouched 2535 01:34:36,470 --> 01:34:34,560 for you to show up and uh there were no 2536 01:34:38,629 --> 01:34:36,480 outsiders allowed you had to be an 2537 01:34:39,910 --> 01:34:38,639 invited member 2538 01:34:42,310 --> 01:34:39,920 yeah you kind of see that stuff in 2539 01:34:44,390 --> 01:34:42,320 movies sometimes i guess it's real and 2540 01:34:46,470 --> 01:34:44,400 then uh 2541 01:34:48,550 --> 01:34:46,480 it would not be as elaborate as some 2542 01:34:50,470 --> 01:34:48,560 things that are depicted like it wasn't 2543 01:34:52,790 --> 01:34:50,480 like something like in stanley kubrick's 2544 01:34:55,430 --> 01:34:52,800 eyewise shut that was uh obviously took 2545 01:34:57,669 --> 01:34:55,440 place at like a a roth child owned 2546 01:35:00,149 --> 01:34:57,679 practical palace uh 2547 01:35:02,709 --> 01:35:00,159 in in a it was a totally self-contained 2548 01:35:05,109 --> 01:35:02,719 gated community uh this was more like uh 2549 01:35:07,430 --> 01:35:05,119 suburban mcmansions if you could imagine 2550 01:35:10,229 --> 01:35:07,440 something like that uh where uh you know 2551 01:35:13,830 --> 01:35:10,239 they might have had a you know four uh 2552 01:35:15,990 --> 01:35:13,840 four car garage and you know a driveway 2553 01:35:19,030 --> 01:35:16,000 uh and you know it would be like a group 2554 01:35:21,750 --> 01:35:19,040 of like 20 or 30 people showing up 2555 01:35:23,430 --> 01:35:21,760 and these do you think they also 2556 01:35:28,550 --> 01:35:23,440 practice other religions and you'll see 2557 01:35:33,590 --> 01:35:31,830 they put on those ostensible errors for 2558 01:35:36,070 --> 01:35:33,600 people in their own community to make 2559 01:35:38,550 --> 01:35:36,080 them think that they are uh practicing 2560 01:35:41,109 --> 01:35:38,560 members of other religions so it's like 2561 01:35:42,550 --> 01:35:41,119 important for them to kind of uh 2562 01:35:44,629 --> 01:35:42,560 practice 2563 01:35:45,990 --> 01:35:44,639 fitting in with the rest of their own 2564 01:35:47,990 --> 01:35:46,000 community because that's what 2565 01:35:48,790 --> 01:35:48,000 psychopaths do 2566 01:35:52,149 --> 01:35:48,800 they 2567 01:35:54,390 --> 01:35:52,159 act like other people act to make them 2568 01:35:55,990 --> 01:35:54,400 seem to other people like they're no 2569 01:35:59,030 --> 01:35:56,000 different than them when in fact they're 2570 01:36:02,229 --> 01:35:59,040 inter-species predators so they put on 2571 01:36:05,350 --> 01:36:02,239 airs and masks all the time and they uh 2572 01:36:07,910 --> 01:36:05,360 pretend ostensibly to be from another 2573 01:36:10,629 --> 01:36:07,920 religious uh denomination when in fact 2574 01:36:12,709 --> 01:36:10,639 they're hardcore hard and uh died in the 2575 01:36:15,030 --> 01:36:12,719 wool satanist through and through but 2576 01:36:16,550 --> 01:36:15,040 they will absolutely pretend to be uh 2577 01:36:18,629 --> 01:36:16,560 from other denominations of other 2578 01:36:20,070 --> 01:36:18,639 religions without any doubt yes mark do 2579 01:36:21,590 --> 01:36:20,080 you remember your the first question 2580 01:36:23,270 --> 01:36:21,600 paulie i'm gonna have to let you go to 2581 01:36:24,709 --> 01:36:23,280 give someone nice 2582 01:36:26,070 --> 01:36:24,719 what was the first question again 2583 01:36:29,750 --> 01:36:26,080 question because i think about oh it was 2584 01:36:31,669 --> 01:36:29,760 about the alight occultism groups yes 2585 01:36:33,430 --> 01:36:31,679 great stuff like that yeah i'll speak to 2586 01:36:35,990 --> 01:36:33,440 that briefly so we'll get to some other 2587 01:36:37,109 --> 01:36:36,000 questions thank you good questions um 2588 01:36:39,189 --> 01:36:37,119 yeah uh 2589 01:36:40,550 --> 01:36:39,199 i would consider schools of light 2590 01:36:44,390 --> 01:36:40,560 occultism 2591 01:36:46,310 --> 01:36:44,400 true freemasonry um true rosicrucianism 2592 01:36:47,910 --> 01:36:46,320 and i'll preface them all with true 2593 01:36:50,310 --> 01:36:47,920 because there's a light and a dark form 2594 01:36:52,149 --> 01:36:50,320 to all of them so there's a form there's 2595 01:36:54,550 --> 01:36:52,159 forms of masonry that i call dark 2596 01:36:57,830 --> 01:36:54,560 masonry right that aren't teaching real 2597 01:37:00,550 --> 01:36:57,840 esoteric freemasonry from a perspective 2598 01:37:02,550 --> 01:37:00,560 of morality conveyed through symbol and 2599 01:37:03,750 --> 01:37:02,560 allegory which is what freemasonry 2600 01:37:05,510 --> 01:37:03,760 should be 2601 01:37:07,510 --> 01:37:05,520 and those esoteric principles are being 2602 01:37:09,350 --> 01:37:07,520 lost and it's being turned into a 2603 01:37:11,030 --> 01:37:09,360 what can i do for you or what can and 2604 01:37:12,629 --> 01:37:11,040 what can you do for me and we advance 2605 01:37:14,709 --> 01:37:12,639 each other's agendas just because we're 2606 01:37:16,790 --> 01:37:14,719 members of a network regardless of 2607 01:37:18,070 --> 01:37:16,800 whether our agendas are right or wrong 2608 01:37:20,390 --> 01:37:18,080 you know and they're not teaching the 2609 01:37:23,270 --> 01:37:20,400 core principles so freemasonry could 2610 01:37:25,189 --> 01:37:23,280 fall and go dark as can rosicrucianism 2611 01:37:27,910 --> 01:37:25,199 that's another one rosicrucianism 2612 01:37:29,910 --> 01:37:27,920 kabbalah the tradition of tarot the 2613 01:37:32,550 --> 01:37:29,920 tradition of theosophy the tradition of 2614 01:37:34,790 --> 01:37:32,560 thalema there are many powerful positive 2615 01:37:37,270 --> 01:37:34,800 schools of occult thought but they all 2616 01:37:40,229 --> 01:37:37,280 have their dark sides there is no 2617 01:37:43,030 --> 01:37:40,239 uh one way that the uh world of the 2618 01:37:45,669 --> 01:37:43,040 occult is it has to do with who's 2619 01:37:48,390 --> 01:37:45,679 studying it who's wielding it what are 2620 01:37:50,149 --> 01:37:48,400 they doing with it for what purpose you 2621 01:37:52,790 --> 01:37:50,159 gotta always ask 2622 01:37:55,510 --> 01:37:52,800 the question why the why is going to 2623 01:37:57,189 --> 01:37:55,520 determine whether it's light or dark 2624 01:37:59,030 --> 01:37:57,199 what are you doing with that knowledge 2625 01:38:00,709 --> 01:37:59,040 who's involved in the group what's this 2626 01:38:03,189 --> 01:38:00,719 agenda what is the agenda that is set 2627 01:38:06,149 --> 01:38:03,199 for the group so there is light a light 2628 01:38:08,310 --> 01:38:06,159 side and a dark side to all aspects of 2629 01:38:11,350 --> 01:38:08,320 the occult regardless of what 2630 01:38:13,350 --> 01:38:11,360 uh branch or quote faction of occultism 2631 01:38:16,229 --> 01:38:13,360 one gets into studies or becomes a 2632 01:38:19,510 --> 01:38:16,239 member of that's why i've said in many 2633 01:38:23,109 --> 01:38:19,520 many times in my work i don't advise um 2634 01:38:24,950 --> 01:38:23,119 getting involved in group um aspects of 2635 01:38:26,870 --> 01:38:24,960 occultism because you never know who's 2636 01:38:29,350 --> 01:38:26,880 running it you never know who's who's 2637 01:38:31,189 --> 01:38:29,360 going to be involved uh i know people at 2638 01:38:33,350 --> 01:38:31,199 the highest levels and degrees of 2639 01:38:35,510 --> 01:38:33,360 freemasonry that tell me that at those 2640 01:38:36,950 --> 01:38:35,520 levels that they're very very good moral 2641 01:38:39,270 --> 01:38:36,960 people trying to do the right thing in 2642 01:38:41,109 --> 01:38:39,280 their communities and there are outright 2643 01:38:43,430 --> 01:38:41,119 criminal thieves 2644 01:38:45,510 --> 01:38:43,440 that are up at that high level as well 2645 01:38:48,470 --> 01:38:45,520 and again that's the bifurcation that 2646 01:38:50,629 --> 01:38:48,480 you see in all areas of occultism uh 2647 01:38:52,790 --> 01:38:50,639 there is a positive side to it that one 2648 01:38:54,550 --> 01:38:52,800 should aspire to and to keep that 2649 01:38:56,870 --> 01:38:54,560 knowledge pure and to do the right thing 2650 01:38:58,390 --> 01:38:56,880 with it and that's really happens again 2651 01:39:00,310 --> 01:38:58,400 at a one-to-one 2652 01:39:03,510 --> 01:39:00,320 ratio with what is going on in one's 2653 01:39:06,070 --> 01:39:03,520 heart and mind uh so um you know that's 2654 01:39:08,790 --> 01:39:06,080 my my delineation between light and dark 2655 01:39:10,390 --> 01:39:08,800 occultism uh and i i don't really 2656 01:39:12,790 --> 01:39:10,400 recommend people to go into lodge 2657 01:39:15,750 --> 01:39:12,800 systems quite frankly because if you are 2658 01:39:18,390 --> 01:39:15,760 self-driven if you are an auto didact 2659 01:39:20,790 --> 01:39:18,400 meaning you're a self-taught individual 2660 01:39:22,709 --> 01:39:20,800 you are good at teaching yourself you 2661 01:39:24,790 --> 01:39:22,719 can download all of the information 2662 01:39:27,590 --> 01:39:24,800 publicly and for free if you know the 2663 01:39:29,229 --> 01:39:27,600 locations to look for it online i'd 2664 01:39:31,229 --> 01:39:29,239 recommend the site 2665 01:39:36,790 --> 01:39:31,239 libgen.is 2666 01:39:38,550 --> 01:39:36,800 could find almost any book practically 2667 01:39:41,270 --> 01:39:38,560 almost any book in the world on there of 2668 01:39:43,109 --> 01:39:41,280 any significance that has been published 2669 01:39:45,669 --> 01:39:43,119 and downloaded in a digital format 2670 01:39:47,830 --> 01:39:45,679 including many many many many books on 2671 01:39:50,070 --> 01:39:47,840 the occult of any school of occult 2672 01:39:51,270 --> 01:39:50,080 thought and learn just about anything 2673 01:39:53,189 --> 01:39:51,280 that they could teach you in a large 2674 01:39:55,189 --> 01:39:53,199 system on your own and and be 2675 01:39:57,830 --> 01:39:55,199 self-taught in that regard and you know 2676 01:39:59,990 --> 01:39:57,840 become uh you know one who holds that 2677 01:40:02,629 --> 01:40:00,000 knowledge and then do the right thing 2678 01:40:05,350 --> 01:40:02,639 with it by getting involved creating uh 2679 01:40:07,990 --> 01:40:05,360 media reaching out to people um helping 2680 01:40:09,990 --> 01:40:08,000 to make this common sense knowledge so 2681 01:40:11,990 --> 01:40:10,000 that it's not used as a weapon 2682 01:40:14,070 --> 01:40:12,000 you know that's how anything the playing 2683 01:40:16,870 --> 01:40:14,080 field is leveled with anything you know 2684 01:40:19,109 --> 01:40:16,880 if everybody has access to it nobody can 2685 01:40:22,149 --> 01:40:19,119 use it as a weapon on somebody else you 2686 01:40:24,149 --> 01:40:22,159 know but in ignorance anything's going 2687 01:40:25,910 --> 01:40:24,159 to go when it comes to people who don't 2688 01:40:27,430 --> 01:40:25,920 have good intentions yet have that high 2689 01:40:29,350 --> 01:40:27,440 level knowledge that's why we have to 2690 01:40:31,750 --> 01:40:29,360 take that knowledge into ourselves and 2691 01:40:33,990 --> 01:40:31,760 help to spread it in an egalitarian 2692 01:40:35,510 --> 01:40:34,000 fashion so that it becomes common sense 2693 01:40:38,070 --> 01:40:35,520 and it can no longer be wielded as a 2694 01:40:40,310 --> 01:40:38,080 weapon over others 2695 01:40:43,669 --> 01:40:40,320 thanks for that mark uh nathan i'm going 2696 01:40:45,350 --> 01:40:43,679 to um a chat question first uh and then 2697 01:40:47,430 --> 01:40:45,360 i'll switch over to telegram but i'm 2698 01:40:49,990 --> 01:40:47,440 giving you a heads up so you get ready 2699 01:40:51,910 --> 01:40:50,000 uh the other question from chad is from 2700 01:40:53,109 --> 01:40:51,920 the 5d raver 2701 01:40:55,189 --> 01:40:53,119 uh it's 2702 01:40:58,310 --> 01:40:55,199 he's asking do you believe in literal 2703 01:40:59,109 --> 01:40:58,320 reptilians if not do you think they mean 2704 01:41:04,070 --> 01:40:59,119 in 2705 01:41:05,830 --> 01:41:04,080 wait okay i'm sorry no i'm sorry i'm 2706 01:41:08,550 --> 01:41:05,840 misreading okay do you believe in 2707 01:41:11,109 --> 01:41:08,560 literal reptilians if not what do you 2708 01:41:12,310 --> 01:41:11,119 think they mean in our reality what is 2709 01:41:14,470 --> 01:41:12,320 their use 2710 01:41:16,709 --> 01:41:14,480 culturally speaking 2711 01:41:19,990 --> 01:41:16,719 well first of all there is a delineation 2712 01:41:22,070 --> 01:41:20,000 that i make between reptilian beings 2713 01:41:22,870 --> 01:41:22,080 if one 2714 01:41:24,470 --> 01:41:22,880 does 2715 01:41:27,109 --> 01:41:24,480 believe that they 2716 01:41:30,310 --> 01:41:27,119 are have physical form to them versus 2717 01:41:32,149 --> 01:41:30,320 the reptilian mindset again there's a an 2718 01:41:34,070 --> 01:41:32,159 aspect of consciousness in the human 2719 01:41:35,669 --> 01:41:34,080 physiology that is referred to as the 2720 01:41:37,830 --> 01:41:35,679 triune brain 2721 01:41:40,310 --> 01:41:37,840 where we have a human brain a mammal 2722 01:41:41,910 --> 01:41:40,320 brain and a reptilian brain and each one 2723 01:41:45,189 --> 01:41:41,920 of those uh 2724 01:41:48,550 --> 01:41:45,199 complexes within the whole brain complex 2725 01:41:50,149 --> 01:41:48,560 is a sort of uh responsible or generally 2726 01:41:52,709 --> 01:41:50,159 runs certain 2727 01:41:54,390 --> 01:41:52,719 personality traits and aspects of a 2728 01:41:57,189 --> 01:41:54,400 behavior 2729 01:41:59,750 --> 01:41:57,199 the reptilian mind or brain the the 2730 01:42:01,910 --> 01:41:59,760 brain stem and the cerebellum 2731 01:42:04,470 --> 01:42:01,920 is uh responsible for respiration 2732 01:42:06,390 --> 01:42:04,480 movement and base instincts of of a 2733 01:42:08,149 --> 01:42:06,400 being of a human being 2734 01:42:10,149 --> 01:42:08,159 and that's referred to as the reptilian 2735 01:42:12,470 --> 01:42:10,159 brain then we go up a higher level in 2736 01:42:14,790 --> 01:42:12,480 the brain to the midbrain on all the 2737 01:42:15,590 --> 01:42:14,800 glandular sections of the midbrain like 2738 01:42:33,030 --> 01:42:15,600 the 2739 01:42:35,350 --> 01:42:33,040 this is 2740 01:42:37,750 --> 01:42:35,360 responsible for generating the chemicals 2741 01:42:40,149 --> 01:42:37,760 and the neuropeptides that 2742 01:42:42,709 --> 01:42:40,159 allow us to experience the full range of 2743 01:42:44,070 --> 01:42:42,719 human emotions so this is the emotional 2744 01:42:45,590 --> 01:42:44,080 level of the brain or what's called the 2745 01:42:47,590 --> 01:42:45,600 mammalian brain 2746 01:42:50,390 --> 01:42:47,600 and then we have a higher thought 2747 01:42:52,629 --> 01:42:50,400 process or thought functioning uh part 2748 01:42:55,189 --> 01:42:52,639 of the brain that is the neocortex the 2749 01:42:56,709 --> 01:42:55,199 neocortical brain comprised of the left 2750 01:42:58,870 --> 01:42:56,719 and right brain hemisphere what we 2751 01:43:00,229 --> 01:42:58,880 consider the gray matter areas of the 2752 01:43:02,790 --> 01:43:00,239 brain 2753 01:43:05,430 --> 01:43:02,800 this is the highest complexified area of 2754 01:43:07,910 --> 01:43:05,440 the human brain that makes human thought 2755 01:43:10,229 --> 01:43:07,920 human personality human characteristics 2756 01:43:11,750 --> 01:43:10,239 and traits possible higher order 2757 01:43:13,990 --> 01:43:11,760 thinking logic 2758 01:43:17,430 --> 01:43:14,000 reason creativity 2759 01:43:18,229 --> 01:43:17,440 um compassion etc uh all of these things 2760 01:43:21,430 --> 01:43:18,239 are 2761 01:43:23,270 --> 01:43:21,440 part of the human brain and uh the left 2762 01:43:25,270 --> 01:43:23,280 and right brain hemispheres 2763 01:43:26,950 --> 01:43:25,280 being able to see big picture you know 2764 01:43:28,149 --> 01:43:26,960 heuristic thinking 2765 01:43:32,229 --> 01:43:28,159 um 2766 01:43:35,189 --> 01:43:32,239 seeing large patterns okay 2767 01:43:37,350 --> 01:43:35,199 true morality uh really higher 2768 01:43:38,709 --> 01:43:37,360 functioning reasoning regarding what is 2769 01:43:40,470 --> 01:43:38,719 right and wrong 2770 01:43:41,910 --> 01:43:40,480 that all takes place up in 2771 01:43:44,790 --> 01:43:41,920 here where the third eye is said to 2772 01:43:47,109 --> 01:43:44,800 exist the prefrontal cortex right behind 2773 01:43:49,189 --> 01:43:47,119 the the skull uh and you know just above 2774 01:43:51,189 --> 01:43:49,199 our eyes in the in the center 2775 01:43:53,270 --> 01:43:51,199 uh and um you know we have to balance 2776 01:43:55,430 --> 01:43:53,280 the brain hemispheres through using both 2777 01:43:58,470 --> 01:43:55,440 right and brain right and left brain 2778 01:44:00,470 --> 01:43:58,480 modalities uh we can't let ourselves go 2779 01:44:03,590 --> 01:44:00,480 into imbalance in either side of the 2780 01:44:06,149 --> 01:44:03,600 brain so um the reptilian could be the 2781 01:44:08,870 --> 01:44:06,159 reptilian mind right that's one way of 2782 01:44:11,910 --> 01:44:08,880 looking at it where it's reptilian base 2783 01:44:14,550 --> 01:44:11,920 behavior instinctive only behavior 2784 01:44:15,430 --> 01:44:14,560 survival mode fight and flight fight or 2785 01:44:17,350 --> 01:44:15,440 flight 2786 01:44:19,189 --> 01:44:17,360 uh you know modality 2787 01:44:21,030 --> 01:44:19,199 where we're not really in higher order 2788 01:44:22,870 --> 01:44:21,040 thinking we're not in compassionate 2789 01:44:25,430 --> 01:44:22,880 thinking we're not in reasonable 2790 01:44:27,669 --> 01:44:25,440 thinking we're in animalistic thinking 2791 01:44:29,350 --> 01:44:27,679 uh but there are many people throughout 2792 01:44:31,669 --> 01:44:29,360 history who have talked about the 2793 01:44:32,629 --> 01:44:31,679 reptilian or serpent cults 2794 01:44:35,830 --> 01:44:32,639 where 2795 01:44:39,270 --> 01:44:35,840 uh it's it's written that uh beings from 2796 01:44:41,590 --> 01:44:39,280 you know uh the heavens elsewhere 2797 01:44:43,830 --> 01:44:41,600 possibly higher dimensions of existence 2798 01:44:44,790 --> 01:44:43,840 have uh visited humanity in the ancient 2799 01:44:47,510 --> 01:44:44,800 past 2800 01:44:49,830 --> 01:44:47,520 and uh it said that they had skin that 2801 01:44:52,950 --> 01:44:49,840 was different than ours that looked 2802 01:44:55,030 --> 01:44:52,960 almost serpentine snake-like uh if you 2803 01:44:57,669 --> 01:44:55,040 can picture like a snake skin that would 2804 01:45:00,470 --> 01:44:57,679 be more like whitish 2805 01:45:03,109 --> 01:45:00,480 you know it's how they were described in 2806 01:45:06,229 --> 01:45:03,119 ancient writings uh some referred to 2807 01:45:08,709 --> 01:45:06,239 them uh as the anunnaki and uh you know 2808 01:45:09,910 --> 01:45:08,719 sitchin's work gets deep into that as do 2809 01:45:14,070 --> 01:45:09,920 many others 2810 01:45:16,709 --> 01:45:14,080 uh in biblical terms of the the 2811 01:45:17,830 --> 01:45:16,719 progeny of them were referred to as the 2812 01:45:19,830 --> 01:45:17,840 nephilim 2813 01:45:22,390 --> 01:45:19,840 uh the uh you know 2814 01:45:24,550 --> 01:45:22,400 uh children of the serpent 2815 01:45:27,510 --> 01:45:24,560 and uh you know 2816 01:45:29,350 --> 01:45:27,520 many ancient cultures have uh 2817 01:45:31,910 --> 01:45:29,360 tons of examples of their building 2818 01:45:33,510 --> 01:45:31,920 projects that they left 2819 01:45:35,590 --> 01:45:33,520 there's 2820 01:45:37,669 --> 01:45:35,600 mounds here in america where many of 2821 01:45:40,149 --> 01:45:37,679 them were buried they were up to nine 2822 01:45:42,149 --> 01:45:40,159 feet tall or taller in many cases 2823 01:45:45,669 --> 01:45:42,159 had reddish hair 2824 01:45:47,990 --> 01:45:45,679 huge skulls double rows of teeth 2825 01:45:51,510 --> 01:45:48,000 um you know you can research all of this 2826 01:45:53,350 --> 01:45:51,520 uh it's in newspapers from the 1800s and 2827 01:45:56,390 --> 01:45:53,360 early 1900s 2828 01:45:58,310 --> 01:45:56,400 obviously this was uh buried people in 2829 01:45:59,430 --> 01:45:58,320 institutions and scientific institutions 2830 01:46:01,669 --> 01:45:59,440 didn't want to 2831 01:46:03,510 --> 01:46:01,679 take down their existing linear 2832 01:46:05,350 --> 01:46:03,520 view of world history and the 2833 01:46:06,950 --> 01:46:05,360 development of human beings and admit 2834 01:46:08,550 --> 01:46:06,960 that they were wrong it would upset 2835 01:46:11,109 --> 01:46:08,560 whole fields of 2836 01:46:12,470 --> 01:46:11,119 existing science that would be thrown 2837 01:46:14,629 --> 01:46:12,480 onto its head 2838 01:46:17,430 --> 01:46:14,639 and so they covered it up you know but 2839 01:46:19,510 --> 01:46:17,440 yeah i i think that certainly it doesn't 2840 01:46:21,669 --> 01:46:19,520 mean that they're actual reptiles 2841 01:46:23,990 --> 01:46:21,679 they're probably beings that had 2842 01:46:26,470 --> 01:46:24,000 uh you know an outward uh you know 2843 01:46:29,030 --> 01:46:26,480 epidermis skin that 2844 01:46:30,629 --> 01:46:29,040 may have had the type of feel and or 2845 01:46:33,109 --> 01:46:30,639 look of 2846 01:46:35,750 --> 01:46:33,119 serpentine creatures and 2847 01:46:37,590 --> 01:46:35,760 therefore they became known as serpents 2848 01:46:39,750 --> 01:46:37,600 you know but it doesn't necessarily mean 2849 01:46:42,229 --> 01:46:39,760 that they really were 2850 01:46:43,109 --> 01:46:42,239 there could be all kinds of 2851 01:46:48,470 --> 01:46:43,119 different 2852 01:46:50,149 --> 01:46:48,480 combinations and looks to uh advanced 2853 01:46:52,310 --> 01:46:50,159 beings 2854 01:46:53,910 --> 01:46:52,320 as far as i'm concerned and you know 2855 01:46:55,510 --> 01:46:53,920 when you look at how the universe is 2856 01:46:57,189 --> 01:46:55,520 practically teeming with life and 2857 01:46:58,470 --> 01:46:57,199 teeming with planets that are capable of 2858 01:47:00,310 --> 01:46:58,480 supporting life 2859 01:47:02,950 --> 01:47:00,320 where uh the 2860 01:47:04,390 --> 01:47:02,960 you know estimates go up by factors of 2861 01:47:07,189 --> 01:47:04,400 thousands a year 2862 01:47:08,709 --> 01:47:07,199 year after year by you know accredited 2863 01:47:10,629 --> 01:47:08,719 scientists 2864 01:47:14,629 --> 01:47:10,639 from just about every university in the 2865 01:47:16,790 --> 01:47:14,639 world who are really studying you know 2866 01:47:19,030 --> 01:47:16,800 what's going on in our universe 2867 01:47:21,510 --> 01:47:19,040 as they are able to improve technology 2868 01:47:23,109 --> 01:47:21,520 and see further out 2869 01:47:25,270 --> 01:47:23,119 without a doubt 2870 01:47:26,629 --> 01:47:25,280 life uh is teeming in the universe it's 2871 01:47:29,590 --> 01:47:26,639 teeming with life 2872 01:47:31,270 --> 01:47:29,600 so you know it it isn't any stretch of 2873 01:47:32,950 --> 01:47:31,280 the imagination for me to believe that 2874 01:47:35,109 --> 01:47:32,960 there's intelligent life out there that 2875 01:47:37,109 --> 01:47:35,119 has been visiting the earth again i 2876 01:47:38,870 --> 01:47:37,119 think some of it has interfered with 2877 01:47:41,270 --> 01:47:38,880 what has taken place here and even 2878 01:47:42,550 --> 01:47:41,280 directed some of what's going on in 2879 01:47:44,310 --> 01:47:42,560 human affairs 2880 01:47:46,709 --> 01:47:44,320 and then in other areas i think they're 2881 01:47:49,030 --> 01:47:46,719 just observing and looking at us with 2882 01:47:50,550 --> 01:47:49,040 pity unfortunately because we're not 2883 01:47:52,550 --> 01:47:50,560 making any progress 2884 01:47:54,470 --> 01:47:52,560 perhaps because of the ways that we were 2885 01:47:56,790 --> 01:47:54,480 interfered i've talked about that 2886 01:47:58,870 --> 01:47:56,800 in a pretty in-depth way in my uh a 2887 01:48:00,229 --> 01:47:58,880 presentation called cosmic abandonment 2888 01:48:01,350 --> 01:48:00,239 if you're interested in looking into 2889 01:48:03,750 --> 01:48:01,360 that further 2890 01:48:06,709 --> 01:48:03,760 that would be the uh the presentation i 2891 01:48:10,950 --> 01:48:08,470 thank you for that mark all right and 2892 01:48:13,830 --> 01:48:10,960 then uh last question then nathan uh you 2893 01:48:16,070 --> 01:48:13,840 are unmuted mute yourself and ask a 2894 01:48:18,790 --> 01:48:16,080 question please 2895 01:48:21,830 --> 01:48:18,800 uh yes hello um wow a lot of really good 2896 01:48:23,830 --> 01:48:21,840 topics tonight it's uh very very good um 2897 01:48:25,430 --> 01:48:23,840 i have i've i have a few questions but 2898 01:48:27,590 --> 01:48:25,440 i'm just gonna ask two just to keep it 2899 01:48:29,750 --> 01:48:27,600 kind of short um 2900 01:48:32,709 --> 01:48:29,760 do you believe or or what sort of 2901 01:48:35,030 --> 01:48:32,719 information or what would you uh what 2902 01:48:37,350 --> 01:48:35,040 would you conclude is uh 2903 01:48:39,030 --> 01:48:37,360 the the fetal tissue that's used in the 2904 01:48:41,030 --> 01:48:39,040 backs is that part part of some sort of 2905 01:48:43,189 --> 01:48:41,040 satanic ritual is there is there is 2906 01:48:44,629 --> 01:48:43,199 there a darker occult reason behind 2907 01:48:47,189 --> 01:48:44,639 including that 2908 01:48:50,550 --> 01:48:47,199 at this point no 2909 01:48:51,830 --> 01:48:50,560 no aspect of what these people do in 2910 01:48:56,790 --> 01:48:51,840 the 2911 01:48:57,750 --> 01:48:56,800 manipulation 2912 01:49:02,870 --> 01:48:57,760 um 2913 01:49:03,990 --> 01:49:02,880 sexual perversion that they perform with 2914 01:49:06,470 --> 01:49:04,000 children 2915 01:49:07,189 --> 01:49:06,480 uh nothing like that would surprise me a 2916 01:49:09,910 --> 01:49:07,199 bit 2917 01:49:11,270 --> 01:49:09,920 and so yeah i would say more likely that 2918 01:49:13,589 --> 01:49:11,280 is connected to 2919 01:49:14,790 --> 01:49:13,599 the further degradation of the innocence 2920 01:49:16,149 --> 01:49:14,800 of children 2921 01:49:20,550 --> 01:49:16,159 and uh 2922 01:49:23,430 --> 01:49:20,560 taking material from uh you know uh 2923 01:49:25,750 --> 01:49:23,440 aborted fetal cells as you said and 2924 01:49:27,669 --> 01:49:25,760 using them in twisted ways these people 2925 01:49:28,550 --> 01:49:27,679 are ill you have to understand they're 2926 01:49:33,669 --> 01:49:28,560 they're 2927 01:49:35,750 --> 01:49:33,679 absolutely psychologically destroyed in 2928 01:49:37,589 --> 01:49:35,760 many cases they have undergone 2929 01:49:39,709 --> 01:49:37,599 trauma-based mind control themselves 2930 01:49:41,589 --> 01:49:39,719 that they've been put through uh 2931 01:49:43,430 --> 01:49:41,599 intergenerationally from their family 2932 01:49:45,830 --> 01:49:43,440 bloodlines 2933 01:49:48,229 --> 01:49:45,840 a friend of mine jay parker experienced 2934 01:49:50,629 --> 01:49:48,239 this type of trauma-based mind control 2935 01:49:52,790 --> 01:49:50,639 torture as a child and talks about it in 2936 01:49:55,109 --> 01:49:52,800 his work and there's no doubt about it 2937 01:49:56,709 --> 01:49:55,119 that these sick psychopathic ruling 2938 01:49:59,189 --> 01:49:56,719 class families put their children 2939 01:50:01,669 --> 01:49:59,199 through that torture to inculcate them 2940 01:50:04,070 --> 01:50:01,679 into their own cult beliefs 2941 01:50:07,189 --> 01:50:04,080 now i'm not saying that really actually 2942 01:50:09,109 --> 01:50:07,199 confers any worldly power on them 2943 01:50:11,910 --> 01:50:09,119 or that they're communicating with any 2944 01:50:13,589 --> 01:50:11,920 entities by doing that this is just it's 2945 01:50:15,990 --> 01:50:13,599 mental illness you have to understand 2946 01:50:18,070 --> 01:50:16,000 it's that's what when religion goes 2947 01:50:20,229 --> 01:50:18,080 totally haywire and that's what their 2948 01:50:21,990 --> 01:50:20,239 belief is they call it the old religion 2949 01:50:23,990 --> 01:50:22,000 that's what they refer to satanism as 2950 01:50:25,669 --> 01:50:24,000 they don't really call it satanism they 2951 01:50:26,709 --> 01:50:25,679 refer to their beliefs as the old 2952 01:50:30,390 --> 01:50:26,719 religion 2953 01:50:33,270 --> 01:50:30,400 and when when a sick twisted mindset 2954 01:50:35,910 --> 01:50:33,280 has control and keeps exerting 2955 01:50:37,350 --> 01:50:35,920 uh control over the beliefs of their you 2956 01:50:39,510 --> 01:50:37,360 know progeny 2957 01:50:40,709 --> 01:50:39,520 down generation after generation after 2958 01:50:43,510 --> 01:50:40,719 generation 2959 01:50:45,589 --> 01:50:43,520 you do these people develop all kinds of 2960 01:50:48,310 --> 01:50:45,599 warped twisted sick beliefs and 2961 01:50:51,350 --> 01:50:48,320 practices that they then put forward as 2962 01:50:53,510 --> 01:50:51,360 this is our tradition and our our ways 2963 01:50:55,189 --> 01:50:53,520 of being in the world that our our 2964 01:50:57,750 --> 01:50:55,199 belief system are 2965 01:51:00,470 --> 01:50:57,760 um you know uh rituals 2966 01:51:02,790 --> 01:51:00,480 uh so again yes they do act like that 2967 01:51:04,390 --> 01:51:02,800 and nothing at all would surprise me 2968 01:51:08,070 --> 01:51:04,400 because the depths of depravity that 2969 01:51:09,750 --> 01:51:08,080 they go to uh would would horrify people 2970 01:51:11,350 --> 01:51:09,760 and i have talked about it 2971 01:51:13,270 --> 01:51:11,360 pretty extensively i've talked about 2972 01:51:14,790 --> 01:51:13,280 their rituals uh they didn't do those 2973 01:51:17,270 --> 01:51:14,800 types of rituals in the level of 2974 01:51:19,990 --> 01:51:17,280 satanism i was involved in but i do know 2975 01:51:21,669 --> 01:51:20,000 about them from reputable sources and 2976 01:51:23,189 --> 01:51:21,679 people that i know that were directly 2977 01:51:24,070 --> 01:51:23,199 involved at that level 2978 01:51:26,470 --> 01:51:24,080 so 2979 01:51:29,589 --> 01:51:26,480 um there's no doubt about it they uh 2980 01:51:30,950 --> 01:51:29,599 they will use blood of children um they 2981 01:51:32,790 --> 01:51:30,960 will um 2982 01:51:35,430 --> 01:51:32,800 you know dismember 2983 01:51:37,589 --> 01:51:35,440 uh members of uh you know 2984 01:51:38,390 --> 01:51:37,599 the society that they kidnapped people 2985 01:51:41,270 --> 01:51:38,400 from 2986 01:51:42,629 --> 01:51:41,280 uh often children um again you have to 2987 01:51:44,070 --> 01:51:42,639 look at the work of jay parker you 2988 01:51:45,270 --> 01:51:44,080 should look at some of the work of fred 2989 01:51:47,589 --> 01:51:45,280 springmeier 2990 01:51:49,750 --> 01:51:47,599 to understand some of this again the 2991 01:51:52,149 --> 01:51:49,760 level of satanism i was involved in did 2992 01:51:54,550 --> 01:51:52,159 not participate in rituals like that i 2993 01:51:57,109 --> 01:51:54,560 must say uh because i don't want people 2994 01:51:59,270 --> 01:51:57,119 thinking i was part partaking or 2995 01:52:02,390 --> 01:51:59,280 involved in those types of rituals i was 2996 01:52:04,070 --> 01:52:02,400 not that is higher level from the level 2997 01:52:08,149 --> 01:52:04,080 of satanism that i personally 2998 01:52:12,149 --> 01:52:10,149 all right thank you um my next question 2999 01:52:13,669 --> 01:52:12,159 is uh well this i don't know if we'll 3000 01:52:15,350 --> 01:52:13,679 ever know the answer to or maybe it's 3001 01:52:17,030 --> 01:52:15,360 just that they're just they're just sick 3002 01:52:19,589 --> 01:52:17,040 and twisted and that's it but i've 3003 01:52:21,109 --> 01:52:19,599 always wondered you know why like like 3004 01:52:22,790 --> 01:52:21,119 besides them wanting to be gods and 3005 01:52:23,990 --> 01:52:22,800 wanting them to control everything why 3006 01:52:25,750 --> 01:52:24,000 why do they want that why do they want 3007 01:52:28,470 --> 01:52:25,760 to control everything why why can't they 3008 01:52:30,629 --> 01:52:28,480 just let us be like what is it 3009 01:52:32,709 --> 01:52:30,639 that's thank you 3010 01:52:35,669 --> 01:52:32,719 the ego that goes out of control wants 3011 01:52:39,430 --> 01:52:35,679 to control others that's a it's a lack 3012 01:52:41,669 --> 01:52:39,440 of personal true power in one's mind and 3013 01:52:43,510 --> 01:52:41,679 heart they don't have true love in their 3014 01:52:44,550 --> 01:52:43,520 life they don't have true self-respect 3015 01:52:47,990 --> 01:52:44,560 in their life 3016 01:52:50,629 --> 01:52:48,000 they deep deep down in their own psyche 3017 01:52:53,189 --> 01:52:50,639 they hate themselves more than anything 3018 01:52:54,870 --> 01:52:53,199 and a person who truly deeply hates 3019 01:52:56,950 --> 01:52:54,880 themselves more than anything else in 3020 01:52:59,109 --> 01:52:56,960 the world what do they want to do they 3021 01:53:00,229 --> 01:52:59,119 want to bring everybody else down to 3022 01:53:02,310 --> 01:53:00,239 their level 3023 01:53:04,229 --> 01:53:02,320 they want everybody to feel their pain 3024 01:53:07,030 --> 01:53:04,239 and sorrow and emptiness and loneliness 3025 01:53:08,870 --> 01:53:07,040 and isolation and lack of self-worth and 3026 01:53:09,910 --> 01:53:08,880 lack of self-respect that's why they're 3027 01:53:13,189 --> 01:53:09,920 pitiful 3028 01:53:15,669 --> 01:53:13,199 entities they're they're i don't i never 3029 01:53:17,910 --> 01:53:15,679 you never really see me or hear me ultra 3030 01:53:19,430 --> 01:53:17,920 bash the elitists of the world the the 3031 01:53:20,870 --> 01:53:19,440 so-called elitists like i say they're 3032 01:53:22,790 --> 01:53:20,880 not the elitist of anything but the 3033 01:53:27,589 --> 01:53:22,800 bottom of a garbage can 3034 01:53:29,830 --> 01:53:27,599 is about what they really rule okay 3035 01:53:32,790 --> 01:53:29,840 i never really throw a bunch of hate 3036 01:53:34,790 --> 01:53:32,800 down on them i know how warped twisted 3037 01:53:36,709 --> 01:53:34,800 sick psychopathic and mentally ill they 3038 01:53:38,830 --> 01:53:36,719 are they also happen to be some of the 3039 01:53:43,109 --> 01:53:38,840 smartest people in the world who are in 3040 01:53:46,629 --> 01:53:43,119 control because we as a society are 3041 01:53:49,510 --> 01:53:46,639 letting the worst of us rule us not even 3042 01:53:52,390 --> 01:53:49,520 influence us but be our owners and 3043 01:53:55,109 --> 01:53:52,400 rulers and masters so when you think 3044 01:53:57,350 --> 01:53:55,119 about that who's worse 3045 01:54:00,149 --> 01:53:57,360 right if you really deeply think about 3046 01:54:01,990 --> 01:54:00,159 it is the person giving the orders worse 3047 01:54:03,990 --> 01:54:02,000 because they hate themselves and they 3048 01:54:05,750 --> 01:54:04,000 don't have any self-respect and they're 3049 01:54:07,510 --> 01:54:05,760 just tortured and twisted in their own 3050 01:54:08,790 --> 01:54:07,520 minds and they want to rule other people 3051 01:54:11,510 --> 01:54:08,800 because they don't love and care about 3052 01:54:13,350 --> 01:54:11,520 themselves truly or is the person that 3053 01:54:15,510 --> 01:54:13,360 believes them 3054 01:54:16,470 --> 01:54:15,520 believes that they have authority over 3055 01:54:19,189 --> 01:54:16,480 others 3056 01:54:22,070 --> 01:54:19,199 believes that they somehow have the 3057 01:54:24,149 --> 01:54:22,080 right to rule over others and listens to 3058 01:54:26,790 --> 01:54:24,159 their instructions and listens to what 3059 01:54:29,430 --> 01:54:26,800 they say and lets them be the leaders of 3060 01:54:32,629 --> 01:54:29,440 society who's worse 3061 01:54:34,550 --> 01:54:32,639 i often throw more way more hatred and 3062 01:54:37,270 --> 01:54:34,560 derision upon the people who are saying 3063 01:54:39,750 --> 01:54:37,280 yes i'll do your bidding master 3064 01:54:41,750 --> 01:54:39,760 than the so-called masters themselves 3065 01:54:43,350 --> 01:54:41,760 the order followers to me are infinitely 3066 01:54:46,310 --> 01:54:43,360 worse because they would dare to say 3067 01:54:48,870 --> 01:54:46,320 we're good people they would dare to say 3068 01:54:50,950 --> 01:54:48,880 we're doing what's right we're following 3069 01:54:51,669 --> 01:54:50,960 our orders because these people told us 3070 01:54:54,070 --> 01:54:51,679 to 3071 01:54:56,390 --> 01:54:54,080 like you have no idea what's right if 3072 01:54:58,550 --> 01:54:56,400 you're an order follower first of all 3073 01:55:01,589 --> 01:54:58,560 order following and following conscience 3074 01:55:03,830 --> 01:55:01,599 is mutually exclusive you cannot follow 3075 01:55:04,870 --> 01:55:03,840 conscience what is actually right you 3076 01:55:08,070 --> 01:55:04,880 know 3077 01:55:10,149 --> 01:55:08,080 difference between right and wrong and 3078 01:55:12,229 --> 01:55:10,159 then willfully choosing what is right 3079 01:55:14,709 --> 01:55:12,239 that's following conscience that means 3080 01:55:17,189 --> 01:55:14,719 you take the knowledge into yourself you 3081 01:55:18,629 --> 01:55:17,199 discern it and you you arrive at the 3082 01:55:20,229 --> 01:55:18,639 correct conclusion of what's right and 3083 01:55:22,629 --> 01:55:20,239 what's wrong and then you follow what is 3084 01:55:24,149 --> 01:55:22,639 right that's following conscience 3085 01:55:26,550 --> 01:55:24,159 you're not doing that when you follow 3086 01:55:29,270 --> 01:55:26,560 orders you're skipping the whole process 3087 01:55:31,990 --> 01:55:29,280 of discovery of what is right and you 3088 01:55:33,750 --> 01:55:32,000 know uh using the process of truth 3089 01:55:35,910 --> 01:55:33,760 discovery and discernment to come to the 3090 01:55:37,430 --> 01:55:35,920 correct conclusions about that you're 3091 01:55:38,790 --> 01:55:37,440 skipping all of that because you're too 3092 01:55:41,350 --> 01:55:38,800 lazy to do that yourself and you're 3093 01:55:43,910 --> 01:55:41,360 saying yes sir yes ma'am i'll do what 3094 01:55:46,470 --> 01:55:43,920 you tell me that's it and that's that's 3095 01:55:48,550 --> 01:55:46,480 immoral on its face that's immoral even 3096 01:55:50,870 --> 01:55:48,560 if you accidentally end up doing the 3097 01:55:53,830 --> 01:55:50,880 right thing you still did an immoral 3098 01:55:55,510 --> 01:55:53,840 behavior by not even discerning for 3099 01:55:56,950 --> 01:55:55,520 yourself the objective difference 3100 01:55:58,950 --> 01:55:56,960 between right behavior and wrong 3101 01:56:01,030 --> 01:55:58,960 behavior and this is what people who 3102 01:56:02,870 --> 01:56:01,040 don't have true self-respect do they 3103 01:56:04,950 --> 01:56:02,880 join a cult called the police they join 3104 01:56:06,470 --> 01:56:04,960 a cult called the military and they say 3105 01:56:08,310 --> 01:56:06,480 yes sir yes ma'am i'll do what you're 3106 01:56:10,390 --> 01:56:08,320 telling me because i'm too lazy and i'm 3107 01:56:11,910 --> 01:56:10,400 too ignorant to figure it out for myself 3108 01:56:13,589 --> 01:56:11,920 what's right and wrong so i'll just 3109 01:56:15,510 --> 01:56:13,599 listen to somebody else tell me and i'll 3110 01:56:17,030 --> 01:56:15,520 try to abdicate that responsibility and 3111 01:56:19,030 --> 01:56:17,040 pass it on to somebody else and guess 3112 01:56:20,870 --> 01:56:19,040 what they're fooling themselves because 3113 01:56:22,709 --> 01:56:20,880 that can't really be done you can't 3114 01:56:24,790 --> 01:56:22,719 really advocate the responsibility to 3115 01:56:26,629 --> 01:56:24,800 learn what is right versus what is wrong 3116 01:56:29,750 --> 01:56:26,639 and pass that on to somebody else and 3117 01:56:32,709 --> 01:56:29,760 say they're responsible no incorrect 3118 01:56:34,709 --> 01:56:32,719 you're always responsible for your own 3119 01:56:36,390 --> 01:56:34,719 actions your own behavior and you'll be 3120 01:56:38,310 --> 01:56:36,400 held to account for it either in this 3121 01:56:40,390 --> 01:56:38,320 life or in wherever your consciousness 3122 01:56:42,709 --> 01:56:40,400 is going when you relinquish the body 3123 01:56:44,790 --> 01:56:42,719 that's eternally true and people will 3124 01:56:48,629 --> 01:56:44,800 find out that it's true one way or 3125 01:56:53,030 --> 01:56:51,109 mark thank you for that and this brings 3126 01:56:55,990 --> 01:56:53,040 us to our conclusion and right on time 3127 01:56:58,790 --> 01:56:56,000 as well so mark uh thank you and i've 3128 01:57:01,510 --> 01:56:58,800 just wanted to leave um uh this time to 3129 01:57:02,950 --> 01:57:01,520 just leave us again with any websites uh 3130 01:57:04,470 --> 01:57:02,960 any concluding 3131 01:57:06,950 --> 01:57:04,480 thoughts you might have you know and 3132 01:57:08,950 --> 01:57:06,960 then we'll we'll let this be it 3133 01:57:11,350 --> 01:57:08,960 well i want to say i thank you very much 3134 01:57:12,870 --> 01:57:11,360 for bringing me onto your platform i 3135 01:57:15,189 --> 01:57:12,880 like your body of work and what you're 3136 01:57:17,430 --> 01:57:15,199 doing and um i want to say the questions 3137 01:57:19,030 --> 01:57:17,440 were great uh from both yourself and 3138 01:57:21,430 --> 01:57:19,040 your listening audience 3139 01:57:24,629 --> 01:57:21,440 and um my if people want to learn more 3140 01:57:27,189 --> 01:57:24,639 about my body of work my main website is 3141 01:57:29,750 --> 01:57:27,199 what on earth is happening.com 3142 01:57:32,629 --> 01:57:29,760 there i always suggest to people to go 3143 01:57:36,470 --> 01:57:32,639 to my podcast section which starts with 3144 01:57:38,550 --> 01:57:36,480 audio and then in the late 190s converts 3145 01:57:41,430 --> 01:57:38,560 over to a video podcast 3146 01:57:43,830 --> 01:57:41,440 do not skip around go in order from 3147 01:57:45,270 --> 01:57:43,840 number one all the way through if you do 3148 01:57:47,510 --> 01:57:45,280 that at your own pace in your own 3149 01:57:50,149 --> 01:57:47,520 progression without skipping around 3150 01:57:51,510 --> 01:57:50,159 a whole tapestry of information will 3151 01:57:53,589 --> 01:57:51,520 open up to you and i give a lot of 3152 01:57:55,109 --> 01:57:53,599 references and other people's body of 3153 01:57:57,350 --> 01:57:55,119 work i link to that 3154 01:57:58,950 --> 01:57:57,360 throughout that whole podcast series and 3155 01:58:02,229 --> 01:57:58,960 it's uh it's um 3156 01:58:03,990 --> 01:58:02,239 supplemented with images books links etc 3157 01:58:05,910 --> 01:58:04,000 so it's a whole learning course there 3158 01:58:07,109 --> 01:58:05,920 that's what i recommend at what on earth 3159 01:58:09,510 --> 01:58:07,119 is happening 3160 01:58:10,870 --> 01:58:09,520 dot com i have another website which is 3161 01:58:13,430 --> 01:58:10,880 a um 3162 01:58:15,669 --> 01:58:13,440 a network of other content creators that 3163 01:58:18,310 --> 01:58:15,679 i try to highlight their work i founded 3164 01:58:20,390 --> 01:58:18,320 this again earlier this year it's called 3165 01:58:22,070 --> 01:58:20,400 one great work network 3166 01:58:24,470 --> 01:58:22,080 you can go there and there's the work of 3167 01:58:25,270 --> 01:58:24,480 about 52 content creators currently up 3168 01:58:28,870 --> 01:58:25,280 there 3169 01:58:30,470 --> 01:58:28,880 articles at least on the site already so 3170 01:58:33,030 --> 01:58:30,480 there's no end to what you can research 3171 01:58:35,030 --> 01:58:33,040 there and then i have another website 3172 01:58:38,070 --> 01:58:35,040 called how to become the true media 3173 01:58:40,470 --> 01:58:38,080 where i take enrollment uh that the 3174 01:58:42,470 --> 01:58:40,480 class begins in july and proceeds 3175 01:58:45,589 --> 01:58:42,480 through december i usually open up 3176 01:58:48,950 --> 01:58:45,599 enrollment i believe around like may uh 3177 01:58:50,790 --> 01:58:48,960 maybe late april early may and then you 3178 01:58:52,550 --> 01:58:50,800 can enroll for the class that starts in 3179 01:58:54,470 --> 01:58:52,560 july and goes all the way through till 3180 01:58:57,350 --> 01:58:54,480 the end of the year in december that's 3181 01:58:59,589 --> 01:58:57,360 called howtobecomethetruemedia.com 3182 01:59:02,149 --> 01:58:59,599 so those are my resources if you want to 3183 01:59:04,550 --> 01:59:02,159 check out more of my work uh adnan thank 3184 01:59:06,390 --> 01:59:04,560 you for uh the interview uh great stuff 3185 01:59:08,070 --> 01:59:06,400 and uh looking forward to seeing more of 3186 01:59:10,470 --> 01:59:08,080 your work in the future 3187 01:59:12,550 --> 01:59:10,480 no thank you i am truly honored and i'm 3188 01:59:15,030 --> 01:59:12,560 pretty sure everyone else watching is if 3189 01:59:16,470 --> 01:59:15,040 they've seen you for the first time uh 3190 01:59:18,870 --> 01:59:16,480 you you have a 3191 01:59:21,030 --> 01:59:18,880 library of things that they can catch up 3192 01:59:23,189 --> 01:59:21,040 on and i hope they do so 3193 01:59:24,709 --> 01:59:23,199 everyone else thank you very much for 3194 01:59:27,430 --> 01:59:24,719 for joining us tonight i hope you 3195 01:59:30,629 --> 01:59:27,440 enjoyed it and um next week on wednesday 3196 01:59:33,350 --> 01:59:30,639 i'm going to resume the open lines it's 3197 01:59:35,270 --> 01:59:33,360 at 7 pm central time as well so i hope 3198 01:59:38,149 --> 01:59:35,280 you can join but 3199 01:59:40,390 --> 01:59:38,159 yeah for now thank you all see you later